The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 - Servo Power and multi platform

edited August 2014 in Blog
The day has come and I am proud to show you the brand new ClubSport Wheel Base V2.


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Although it looks familiar to you it has almost no part which has not been modified or replaced to make it a better base.

Our focus was durability, durability, durability and then performance.  And while we made a radical re-design, we decided to make an offer nobody can refuse.

The smoothness, vividness and precision of a Direct Drive wheel combined with a torque increase of about 75% and (optional) compatibility to the latest gaming consoles.  And all that with a moderate price increase.


Here are the details:

7 Ultra Precise

We replaced the optical sensor with two magnetic high resolution hall sensors mounted on both the motor and the steering axis. The new sensors have double the resolution and the magnetic sensore are less vulnerable to dust or scratched code discs.

6 Smoothastic

The cogging of this system cannot be felt by a human anymore. It is incredible smooth and feels natural and realistic. It is on par or better with the best and most expensive wheel out there although those wheels costs a multiple of the CSW B V2.

Every little bump can be felt and effects which were filtered by the wheel mechanics can now be felt. Your racing simulations will feel different and new to you.

5 Rock Solid

Our focus was to achieve high durability even for hardcore users.
•    Improved QR release with rubber o-ring and less tolerance in production
•    A brushless motor which can be cooled much easier as it gets hot on the outside and not on the inside so heat can be transfered better
•    New cooling system featuring an additional fan on the backside right behind the new huge heat sink
•    Integrated heat sensor inside the motor
•    Motor can now even be operated at 180 C° although the FOR overclocking would be de-activated already at 120 C° and FF would shut down at 130°C. The motor has plenty of power so most people will not use max settings anyway. And during betatests it never happened that a motor was shut down or the FF was cut due to overheating.
•    Ball bearings on the motor axis and bigger ball bearings inside the pulleys so we can increase the belt tension and avoid any belt slip. At the same time we have much less drag in the system.
•    Magnetic sensors instead of the optical so we avoid problems with dust and scratches
•    New main cable
•    New electronics
•    And many other small improvements to the overall build quality


4 Power. A lot.

The new motor is custom designed and exclusive to Fanatec. Although the gear ratio has been changed to increase the rotation speed, it delivers about 75% more torque than the CSW B V1. This means over 7 NM of sheer
power and this is enough to use even heavy rims with no disadvantages. The size of the power supply has also increased in order to feed the big motor.

3 Brushless Servo

A brushless servo motor is currently state-of-the-art for force feedback systems and in principle this is exactly the same motor as the most expensive direct drive base units out there.
•    Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)
•    Easier to cool as the heat is on the outside of the motor and not on the motor shaft
•    Strong axis with ball bearings
•    Optimized for use in stall at max power
•    Fast acceleration
•    More efficiency -> more torque with same power

We had to develop entire new electronics for that motor as the motor
driver is quite complex. Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors or a direct drive wheel.

2 Next Generation

The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 is the next generation of ourwheel base but there is also a strong demand of wheels for “Next-Gen” consoles. People were asking us to make their wheels compatible to the Xbox One and Playstation 4  but if we want to make it official and legal then we need to follow the rules of the console makers and they clearly do not allow
that. 

So how can we make a product where there is a chance that the customer can keep at least most of the equipment he purchased? We can easily make the pedals, shifters and handbrake compatible and this is what we did but what about the base unit?

And how can we make a product multi-platform compatible if we can only get approval for a license if the product has only the symbols of either one console on it?

We came up with an idea which brings modularity to a whole new level and protects your investment. If you play on PC then just go ahead and purchase the wheel base as it is and you will not be bothered with symbols which might hurt your eye.

But if you want to enjoy the painless simplicity of a console with its great exclusive racing simulations then you will get the option to buy an optional steering wheel which will
add full console compatibility to this base.

We want to achieve compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and we are happy to announce that we already signed a contract with one of them. We will announce this product at the end of this year.

There will be multiple steering wheels available in different price ranges and they will compatible to several Fanatec base units from mid-range to direct drive.

1 By Invitation Only

The great response we get from our beta testers lead us to the conclusion that the demand for this product will be much bigger than the supply. Production output will be lower as before as we spend even more time on quality control and testing.

At the same time we want to honor the loyalty of our existing customers and want to offer a special pre-order discount for the owners of the current ClubSport and CSR Elite base so that they can enjoy a little upgrade advantage.

This is how it works:
•    We will send an e-mail to our webshop customers with an invite code. There will be several waves of e-mails in the next months. 
•    Only after you entered the code to your profile page you will be able to purchase or pre-order this product
•    After you purchased one V2 base you will receive a second code. You can give that to a friend or buy a second base.
•  
 Only one code will be given with a purchase as we want to avoid that people are selling their products or invites on eBay and make money with it.
•    We will also give away invites in giveaway events so frequent followers of the blog or Facebook will also get a chance to get an invite

This is the priority we will use for the invites to make it as fair and transparent as possible.
1.    Webshop customers of the CSW B V1 and CSR E (sorted by purchase date)
2.    Webshop customers of other ClubSport products like CSP or CSS
3.    All other Fanatec customers

Of course we will treat all territories with the same priority.

Not every customer will use his invite so go ahead and ask your friends if they use their invite of if they give it to you in case you are not on the list yet. It is possible and welcome to transfer invite codes.

Please do not ask our sales team for invites. They are not authorized to give out codes anyway. If it is your turn then you will get an e-mail. We will open a thread in our forum which explains more details and where you can also ask for invites from other members.

By the way, all lucky customers who placed a pre-order for the old V1 base just got a free upgrade to V2 and they are the first to receive the new product.



The Price

Pre-order price:
EU: 499,95
USA: 499,95
AUS: 655
J: 65.000

Regular price:
EU: 599,95
USA: 599,95
AUS: 785
J: 78.000

Prices are calculated different in the regions depending on taxes, laws, logistic costs and other local costs.

Availability

We started production this week and as soon as we start shipping, we will open the pre-orders for the invited guests. The first products should arrive at the end of September or early October.
850 x 315 - 148K
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Comments

  • I've held out on Fanatec products till they released this and I have to wait longer now because I didn't purchase something earlier. Damn it I still have a G25.. Take my money!!
  • edited August 2014
    Ok heres my money ;) David im on the same boat (or car)
  • Nice job !

    I just had a look to my orders history... I expect to receive the email soon :-)

    Can wait to give this base a try !
  • Just waiting for my code...5...4...3...2...1...come on guys!
  • So, if somebody doesn't need their order codes, I would be very happy to use it! :x
  • My first CSR Elite order was in 19th december 2011.. I'm very happy for this new wheel base dear Fanatec and I'm absolutely ready for the preorder of v2 !!!
    II hope to get the code very soon ! 
  • Can we upgrade the V1 base to next gen with one of the new rims or is this exclusive to the V2?
  • Hi Thomas. looking forward to trying out this new base. I purchased a csr elite wheel,pedals and shifters through Pagnian Imports as fanatec did not have a store in Australia at that time, will that purchase be honoured in your invite process, ive dealt with your service team when I had issues with the csr elite, I have also purchased 2 wheels, hub , handbrake , pedals , static shifter, css and v1 base through your Australian store recently.

    Thanks..

  • Hey , 

    Will the V2 Unit still be compatible to PS3 as is the V1? This is pretty important to me. And when are you going to say with whom you signed a contract with? Sony or Microsoft? 

    I might figure this out by myself haha :) 


  • edited August 2014
    Wow. So the guys that already have their CSW bases and all their additional Fanatec stuff get it dirtectly. Others who are hanging around with broken or worn out GT2/GT3 RS wheels can wait half a year. Great.

    I understand that loyal customers get it first. But this is really sad for most guys, who want to upgrade after many years from their aging hardware. That feels so unfair.

    You started the thirst for good wheels on the mass market and now you let those normal guys hanging. 
  • Awesome job to all the Fanatec team ! Of course I will purchase this new base. My CSR Elite will have a big brother
    :D
    I am waiting for the invitation. Thank you Fanatec.
  • Wow. So the guys that already have their CSW bases and all their additional Fanatec stuff get it dirtectly. Others who are hanging around with broken or worn out GT2/GT3 RS wheels can wait half a year. Great.

    I understand that loyal customers get it first. But this is really sad for most guys, who want to upgrade after many years from their aging hardware. That feels so unfair.

    You started the thirst for good wheels on the mass market and now you let those normal guys hanging. 
    No matter how Fanatec do it, someone will always think it unfair
  • Ouch… Receive my new CSW base first week of this month. Wrong time order... after one year without any comment on console compatibility… It hurts now :(
  • Just for clarity, where do CSWv1 beta testers fall in the pre-order rankings?

    Thomas, bravo! This looks like the next wheel for a LOT of people.
  • Coole Aktion Thomas !! :-) in gespannt wie ein Regenschirm :-D ob ich auch einer der glücklichen sein werde, die eine Email bekommt. Würde mich super freuen !!! Bin auch schon mächtig gespannt auf meinen schon langen bestellten Shifter :-) 
    Auch Thomas und liebes Fanatec-Team, macht weiter so
    Liebe Grüsse aus Deggendorf/Niederbayern ;-)
  • Definitely looking forward to this, but I don't get to save 100 euros because I preordered a CSR wheel and CSR E pedals back in 2011 for the launch of Forza 4? Very disappointed. 

    It feels like I'm being punished for waiting it out for a next generation steering wheel.
  • Thomas, I need an invite to add this wheel base to my Fanatec collection.  Been on board this train since the  Turbo S...No need to stop now.

    How about an invite for Cheeba!!
  • Hopefully i get an invite soon.
    I cant wait to upgrade my csw b v1
  • I preordered a PWTS Clubsport over five years ago, so obviously I fall into the #2 priority. I can understand that. However, it states that priority is sorted by purchase date. Does that give older or newer orders priority? I'm guessing older. So, I should be waaay up in that second tier, hopefully.

  • Could you make video of this product to Youtube.
    Not an 1min marketing video...
  • I have waited for 1 month before to order csw v1 because it was in preorder, and I have not made it. Now I will not be a lucky costumers! :( I hope arrivals the invitation.
    Ciao
    M.
  • edited August 2014
    Thomas wie sieht es denn mit einer zeitlichen Aussage zur Verfügbarkeit der speziellen Lenkräder aus? Driveclub und PCARS sind im Anmarsch
  • Coole Aktion Thomas !! :-) in gespannt wie ein Regenschirm :-D ob ich auch einer der glücklichen sein werde, die eine Email bekommt. Würde mich super freuen !!! Bin auch schon mächtig gespannt auf meinen schon langen bestellten Shifter :-) 
    Thomas und liebes Fanatec-Team, macht weiter so
    Liebe Grüsse aus Deggendorf/Niederbayern ;-)

  • Hi Thomas

    Just one question, I bought my CSRE & CSW + pedals, shifters, rims... in the Fanatec US because had not Fanatec shop in Japan before, after the Fanatec Japan has opened I bought the universal hub and the Porsche rim, so the question is, if i receive the invitation code can i use that for buy the new base in the Fanatec Japan ?
  • edited August 2014
    " We want to achieve compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and
    we are happy to announce that we already signed a contract with one of
    them
    . We will announce this product at the end of this year."
     
    Such a bad timing ........... !!!!!
    What can i do if "the one of them" is the Xbox One and I have a PS4 ???
    And for the bad timing , Project Cars, DriveClub will be available on october , not " at the end of this year" ...... !!!!!
    So, if I want to buy this new wheels, I just need to pay in september and pray that the compatibility will be the "good one" for me , and then wait 2 more months before I can play !!

    I hope you can quickly say witch one console you will support , or make an another news to tell us you signed with both of them and not only one ;-)


  • Nice Job......Great new Hardware. thanks Fanatec for this Summer
    =D>
  • Well done with 8th gen console compatibility. I always thought a modular solution would be the best approach to make your product more future proof. I have the feeling that Microsoft is the company that's dragging their feet, but personally it doesn't matter.

    About the exclusivity, If I am reading this correctly, the rest of the Fanatec customers will eventually be offered the chance to buy the wheel. I am good with that because I am a ways away from being ready to update/upgrade from the CSR. I always wanted a Club Sport wheel since it was announced, and getting one was always at the end of my rig building plan. I am relieved that I will not be shut out from getting a V2, unless I misread the post. 


  • Can we upgrade the V1 base to next gen with one of the new rims or is this exclusive to the V2?
    Hey , 

    Will the V2 Unit still be compatible to PS3 as is the V1? This is pretty important to me. And when are you going to say with whom you signed a contract with? Sony or Microsoft? 

    I might figure this out by myself haha :) 




    Hi Thomas, ich bin überzeugt davon, dass die neue Base der Hammer wird, aber genau die Fragen von Pascal und Roderick gehen mir nun auch durch den Kopf. Mein Englisch ist nicht das beste und den Google Übersetzer kannste auch vergessen, aber wenn ich es richtig verstanden habe funktionieren die neuen Rims auch mit der V1 Base??? Ich zitiere dich: 
    There will be multiple steering wheels available in different price ranges and they will compatible to several Fanatec base units from mid-range to direct drive. 
    Das und mit welchem Konsolenhersteller ihr einen Vertrag gemacht habt sind für mich erstmal die wichtigsten Fragen. Denn was nützt mir eine neue Base wenn die nur mit der XB1 funzt und ich eine PS4 habe. 

    :-?
  • Wir können zur XB1 und PS4 Kompatibilität leider zur zeit nicht mehr sagen weil die Entwicklung nicht abgeschlossen ist und wir keine Versprechungen machen können die wir dann nicht halten können.
  • Habe Monate mit der Bestellung der Wheelbase gewartet wegen der Konsolensituation. Mache Euch für den Bull... natürlich nicht verantwortlich, die 100 Euro Vorbesteller-Rabatt finde ich aber schon enorm und hoffe als "Wartender" jetzt nicht total dumm dastehen zu müssen :( 
  • Habe noch etwas vergessen: ich hoffe, ihr bringt auch das Porsche 918 RSR für die ps4 raus, das wäre nämlich für mich das nächste Wheel Rim gewesen. Steht ganz oben auf meiner Liste... :D
  • Oh my god!!!
    I got no luck with the special sale for the World Cup (Germany)!
    I got no luck with my Logitech Momo Wheel (Throttle pedal dead long time ago) and no luck with my G25 as the FFB was dead after approx 100 hours of use..
    So since 1 year, I am racing with the MOMO wheel and the G25 pedals. :(
    I really hope to get some luck for one time and receive this amazing code..


    I want to be Fanatec customer!!!

    Crossing my fingers :)

    Christophe

  • Hi Thomas and the rest of Fanatec,
                                                       Id personally like some clarification, which next gen console is supported because if xbox one isnt there is no point in me purchasing and when will the next gen compatibility be available as switching from pc to xbox one and no longer being a pc gamer but always using fanatec means i dont want to buy a CSW V2 base and not be able to play it because im waiting on a xbox one wheel for it. Secondly would you offer a greater discount on a trade in of a CSR elite or similar, or any dicounted value on top of just being a customer. Personally I have Spent in excess of £700 and so another £500 and £150 - £400 for just the steering wheel is painful.

    I am however very grateful that peripherals are compatible and thankyou for the serious time you put into products and thier excellent build quality, I am very much looking forward to this new base and wheel but some details of pricing and its direction would help in my personal buying of this new evolution of Fanatec.

    Many thanks John Rayson

  • edited August 2014

    Hi Thomas ,

    You have my FULL attention on this wheel base !!! I bought my CSP pedals in 2009 which was the first batch ever run  & I am still using them today without issues !!!  Will I be included in the  invite process ?

    Thanks !

    Billy Graham 

  • Thomas, die neue Base hat 7nm. Ich hab noch ein GT3RS. Wieviel Newtonmeter hat das im Vergleich?

    Just for comparison: How much Newton metres has the GT3RS wheel referring to the 7nm of the new base?

    cheers
    Frank

  • Servo Motors are said to run cool and with that said I think one fairly powerful motor is better than 2 weaker motors that heat. I like the idea of just changing the rim for switching platforms
  • I'm a lowly PWTS + CSR Elite pedals + Inversion Kit + Wheel Stand second class citizen apparently.
    :-w

    I almost pulled the trigger on the CSW last week...

    Hopefully I won't have to wait for too long. I guess the bright side is that we'll get to see a few reviews before...
  • Can't wait for my V2 Base to arrive! 

    Ordered the V1 last week and received an email to say i would be sent a V2 unit as the V1 is superseeded.

    Great service!
  • and to mortals when we acquire this base v2
  • Hallo Thomas
    schön das die neue Base jetzt rauskommt.
    Mit denn Separaten Lenkräder ist auch o. k. .
    Ich hoffe nur das die ps4 und xbox one räder nicht so billig werden (Plastik und so)
    ist einzuschätzen wie die preisspanne bei der Konsolen variante ausfällt?  (Im Vergleich zu dem bmw rim)
    muss dann nämlich für pc , xbox und ps4 eins kaufen.
    Bin hald nur ein kleiner Handwerker.
    Dan kann Mann schon mal abschätzen was noch ende des Jahres an Geld benötigt wird.       Werde dann erst die Base und das bmw rim zulegen.                                                                     
    Danke für die Bemühungen (waren bestimmt harte Verhandlungen) 

    \m/
  • …mmmhhh, 
    BASE V2 hört sich ja aufjedenfall sehr gut an… aber is es jetzt "direct drive brushless servo" oder "brushless servo" ?? …. oder was kommt da noch ;-)
    "Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)"
    "Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors or a direct drive wheel"

    Thomas ?  … will jetzt nicht die BASE V2 kaufen wenn dann noch was anderes kommt ;-) 

    mfg

  • Thomas,
    What about the people who have been in the community for a long time waiting for this wheel, its kind of not fair to not consider them as loyal, honestly I have been checking the website and the forum at least twice a day for more than two years (I wasn't on the forum until the new update) for this wheel, Im sure there are others like me, I would have pulled the trigger on this base and full club sport set up today but now I have to wait until it is available for people who don't have a code, I can understand that it is currently not available to anyone because production only begun recently but the customers considered loyal already have a set-up whereas others such as myself don't... I trust that you will have a solution make all your customers happy, or at least if I order full club sport set up now I will be given code for when it is available for pre order?
  • Can't wait for my V2 Base to arrive! 

    Ordered the V1 last week and received an email to say i would be sent a V2 unit as the V1 is superseeded.

    Great service!
    Wow. So if I did order a CSW last week instead of looking at this **** blog and deciding to wait, I'd be first in line?

    Now I'm stuck with this shitty PWTS for months instead. Great. Just great. >:P
  • Man I really screwed myself by not pre-ordering the V1 base lol... I was about to order/pre-order everything to set up my first rig! I decided to wait and see what this was going to be since I'm a console gamer, and I didn't want to miss an opportunity to pick up something for the PS4/XB1 over the PS3. I guess I'll still be going with the V1 after all, unless I manage to somehow get a code from someone... Oh well, it still gonna fun until I can pick one of these up!
  • I was one that purchased the Elite wheel. I found out too late that it was obsolete, and not the top of the line. I've had problems with 3 of 4 pieces that I've purchased from fanatec. Ive repaired all my components, and love them. That being said, I am very interested in the new base! I refuse to buy the x bone because of their shenanigans, but I will be getting a PS4, and I've since upgraded my PC. The inclusion of a code in my mailbox would definitely be appreciated.
  • @ Fanatec

    1. Wäre schön wenn man die News auch mal in Deutsch lesen könnte...Bin der englischen Sprache nicht so mächtig ;-)

    2. würde ich gerne wissen ob ich das Lenkrad über meinen Account kaufen kann mit dem Aktionscode von meinem Bekannten, da ich das CSR Elite von ihm abgekauft habe ???

    Danke für die Antwort...
  • As a previous Porsche 911 Turbo S Wheel owner (it was stolen about 6 months after receiving it :(...darn college town), I hope to receive a code before they are out of stock!!  Good work Fanatec, this base looks awesome!
  • Finally, a Fanatec wheel which will possibly compatible with next gen consoles - great!!!!!! Now I just have to wait for the pre-order code... :)

    But I really hope that you can confirm compatibility for PS4 and XBONE soon or at least inform us with which company Fanatec has already managed to sign a contract with (my guess would be Microsoft as the last gen Fanatec wheels where branded as official Forza wheels but who knows).

    Being able to play Drive Club (PS4) AND Forza (XB1) with the same Fanatec wheel (base) would be awesome.
  • …mmmhhh, 
    BASE V2 hört sich ja aufjedenfall sehr gut an… aber is es jetzt "direct drive brushless servo" oder "brushless servo" ?? …. oder was kommt da noch ;-)
    "Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)"
    "Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors
    or a direct drive wheel"

    Thomas ?  … will jetzt nicht die BASE V2 kaufen wenn dann noch was anderes kommt ;-) 

    mfg




    Das würde mich auch SEHR interessieren!!
  • Brilliant! It looks like this will really bridge the gap quite some way between conventional motor driven wheels to the really expensive direct drive servo wheels
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