The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 - Servo Power and multi platform

2

Comments

  • Es kommt immer was neues. Wenn es danach ginge würde ich noch immer mit dem Festnetz telefonieren und Briefe mit Papier schreiben.

  • panem et circenses ...
  • Is there the intention to give  the existing customers of the CSW V 1 a discount if they want to replace their CSW V1 with the new V 2?

    I have bought the CSW 9 months ago and then bought the whole clubsport equipment (CSP, CSS SQ, BMW rim, Formula rim). I will never buy the CSW V 2 if there isn't a possibilty to send in the old version and then getting an appropriate refund. Who needs 2 bases?

    I don't think I am the only one who is not willing to pay futher 500 € for a better base after spending already 450 € for the old base not a long time ago. That's nearly 1000 € together, only for the bases.

    And the possibilty to sell the old base isn't attractive because the launch of the new base will drop the prices for the used old version.

    Thomas: You should do something in this direction and care more for good existing customers. I have spend nearly 2000 € for FANATEC products. 
  • Marc,

    if you want to buy a new car and trade in the old one then the dealer pays you about 10-20% less the market value for the old one so he can also earn some money on it because selling a used car is also an effort.

    Selling a base on ebay is easy and I expect prices to be stable as the V1 is far more attractive than many other wheels out there.

    At least you get the 100,- pre-order discount and this is the best we can do.
  • edited August 2014
    Thank you, thank you, thank you.  Great job Fanatec/Thomas.  

    Can't wait for the new base with better motors, more power and increased reliability.  Sounds perfect.  

    This is the news I was waiting for.  Now the only question is how many rims am I going to buy to accompany this new awesome base.....  decisions, decisions.......... :).  
  • For those of you complaining about using the wheels on PS4 or XB1, I hope this is an eye opener for you.

    These companies will not allow products on their platform, unless they get a cut of every sale.  This is why you won't be able to use ANY of the existing steering wheels on the PS4 or XB1.  Fanatec will need to make individual wheels for each platform and for each type of racing discipline.  (F1 wheel for PS4 and XB1, GT wheel for PS4 and XB1, etc, etc, etc...)

    This is a horrible business model, as the customers are the ones that get screwed.  I've been using a console all my life and most recently a PS3.  After the proprietary way both Sony and Microsoft approached the next generation, I decided to make the move.  Built a gaming PC and will not look back.  

    I love the simplicity of the consoles, but that comes at a huge price.  When you add up the price of the console and the amount you need to spend on proprietary peripherals, it does not make sense to lock yourself into a platform.

    Of course, there is a cost to this, as I won't be able to play the next generation Gran Turismo.  So, the question becomes, is it worth spending $400 on a console and $400 on proprietary peripherals, just to play one game??  I think not.  I'll stick to the PC, which is compatible with 99% of the games out there and allows me to use all my Fanatec gear, as I choose.

    My 2 cents.  Sham on you Sony and Microsoft.  Compatibility is the future.  This proprietary stuff makes me sick. 

  • Thomas,

    I don't understand your comparison. The comparison would only make sense if you would be willing to pay 10/20 % under the market value of the old CSW. But that is obviously not the case. Or did I misunderstand you?

    If you compare it with the automotive industry, there is a signicant difference: If I buy a new car, you know when the next model of this car will be introduced. A car at the end of the product history is sold at lower prices than the same model a year ago because most people want to wait for the new model. 

    In your case you made a secret about the new version, no one should know until today. I understand that is interesting for FANATEC to hype a new product. But do you think also about the people who wanted to order the CSW a week ago and waited understandably with that because of your mystcal 7-1 countdown. Now they look into the "Röhre" (;-) and can wait a long time because they are a the end of the invitation list or not even on this list. That is not fair in my opinion.
  • edited August 2014
    Thomas,

    I don't understand your comparison. The comparison would only make sense if you would be willing to pay 10/20 % under the market value of the old CSW. But that is obviously not the case. Or did I misunderstand you?
    Marc, you can sell your 9 month old base for $200-$300 pretty easy and you get a $100 discount on the new product.  That means you would only have to fork out a few hundred dollars to get a much improved base with much better internals.

    If that is not worth it for you, you still have what you paid for 9 months ago and can enjoy that instead.  This is the way the world works.  Nobody gives you a discount because they came out with a new product.  That's just not reality.

    You think Thrustmaster is allowing people to return their old gear, just because they came out with a new product?  Your expectations are unreasonable.  
  • da sind ja wirklich einige scherzkeckse dabei … bald fordern sie > jeder die BASE V2 Gratis, versandkosten frei :-)

    Thomas, ab wann werden die Clubsport Shifter wieder versandbereit sein ??




  • Wir können zur XB1 und PS4 Kompatibilität leider zur zeit nicht mehr sagen weil die Entwicklung nicht abgeschlossen ist und wir keine Versprechungen machen können die wir dann nicht halten können.
    Gut Thomas, sehe ich vollkommen ein. Trotzdem bleibt die Frage, ob ich für die "Next Gen" Rims zwingend die V2 Base benötige, wenn ich auf der PS4 spielen will?? Oder kann ich meine V1 Base upgraden bzw. funzt es auch ohne Upgrade?  :-??
  • I was one of the first wave of buyers of the CSW base when it went on sale a couple of years ago. While I have had it repaired multiple times I still don't see an invite code for the new unit. I also have the Formula Rim, BMW rim, Clubsport Shifter SQ. 

    Odd that I haven't received a code when my unit was within the first 25 that went out.
  • hi thomas

    i have purchased csw f1 rim 04/08/14 my question is approximately when will you send me a pre order mail for new base?a month or two?am i second priority turn for new base pre order? i also will buy carbon f1 rim and v2 pedals too with new base...thanks your answer...
  • Thomas's posts states that emails will be coming in waves over the next few months and that they will send out emails when the products are available for shipping, around end of September or early October. 

    So David, I think you'll need to wait about 2 to 4 weeks for the first emails to start to come out, but you should have your base by October.  
  • do WANT!
  • Hello Fanatec / Thomas, 

    One question just for clarify, the V1 Base unit will compatible with PS4 rims, or just de new V2 Base?


    Thank you for your attention


  • I think this is a very clever solution to an f'd up situation thanks to Microsoft and Sony Although potentially expensive. 600euro for the base, minimum 80euro for pedals and then at a guess 180euro+ each for an xbox one rim AND a PS4 rim. But I guess we will all probably buy it right! That thing is sexy!!!
  • Thomas, my account history page is missing lots of my purchases :(
    As you hopefully know I pre-ordered the CSR Elite wheel day one it was available same with CSS SQ and even the PWTS. I also ordered from you CSP and CSL Seat

    Please send me an invite as you know I'm good for the order ;)
  • edited August 2014
    da sind ja wirklich einige scherzkeckse dabei … bald fordern sie > jeder die BASE V2 Gratis, versandkosten frei :-)

    Thomas, ab wann werden die Clubsport Shifter wieder versandbereit sein ??


    Ich würde darum bitten, hier etwas mehr Sachlichkeit walten zu lassen (ja, es geht auch auf deutsch) und keine unqualifizierten/beleidigenden Kommentare abzugeben. 

    Es wäre im übrigen auch mal interessant, wieviel € du bisher in FANATEC-Produkte investiert hast. Das Ganze ist nämlich auch immer eine Frage des Ausgangspunktes...

    Ich bin übrigens nicht der einzige, der eine Inzahlungnahme/Rabattlösung für angemessen hält wie man auf den Facebook-Kommentaren oder im offiziellen Assetto Corsa-Forum nachlesen kann. 

    Ich fände es auch - gelinde gesagt - sehr unglücklich,wenn ich z. B. kurz vor der World-Cup-Rabatt-Aktion (war erst vor etwas mehr als 1 Monat) eine CSW zum regulären Preis (450 €) bestellt hätte und jetzt erfahre, dass es sich um das Auslaufmodell handelt, dass schon jetzt nicht mehr angeboten wird. Da käm ich mir ziemlich verschaukelt vor, da dies von FANATEC nie angekündigt oder auch nur angedeutet war.

    Hier wäre eine offenere Kommunikationspolitik von FANATEC angebracht, was natürlich zulasten der Verkaufszahlen der alten Base gegangen wäre. Es war allerdings von FANATEC nie angekündigt worden, dass es (in absehbarer Zeit) eine überarbeitete Version der CSW geben wird. 

    Auch als vor ein paar Wochen im Rahmen des letzten Firmware-Updates der CSW die alte Kritik an den zu schwachen Motoren der Base hier im Forum wieder geäußert wurde, wurde die Begrenzung des FOR-Seeting auf 150 % von FANATEC mit dem Argument verteidigt, dass man "Overclocking" verhindern müsse. Allerdings wurde nicht einmal eine Andeutung gemacht, dass eine neue Version der CSW komnen wird, obwohl sie sich zum damaligen Zeitpunkt schon in einem weit fortgeschrittenen Entwicklungsstadium befunden haben muss.

    Ich bin auch relativ begeistert von den Clubsport-Produkten. Und das Marketing von FANATEC ist auch überwiegend geschickt. Allerdings wird aus meiner Sicht teilweise die Kundenzufriedenheit nicht ausreichend gewürdigt und ich komme mir teilweise ziemlich verschauckelt vor. Wenn nicht mit offenen Karten gespielt wird, steigert das nicht gerade meine Bereitschaft, weitere hunderte von € in die Produkte dieser Firma zu investieren.



  • Is anyone else confused by the usage of direct drive, belt driven, and gear ratio all in the same spec announcement? Is the V2 direct drive or not? If I'm reading it correctly, it seems it's a brushless servo motor using a gear box to increase torque with a belt system to connect it to the wheel shaft. Anyone else get this?
  • Very Nice product!
    I've Been with fanatec since the 911 turbo S + CSP in 2010. Then the GT2 wheel in 2011 and the CSR wheel + CSR elite pedal same year. I've purchase also a 2nd hand elite wheel. So I'm hope having an invitation code.
    Please let us Know the next gen compatibility asap

    Greetings from France
  • Is anyone else confused by the usage of direct drive, belt driven, and gear ratio all in the same spec announcement? Is the V2 direct drive or not? If I'm reading it correctly, it seems it's a brushless servo motor using a gear box to increase torque with a belt system to connect it to the wheel shaft. Anyone else get this?
    Agreed.  The description seems pretty clear that there's belts involved, but the use of "direct drive" confuses things.  I think the claim is that it has the "smoothness, vividness and precision of a Direct Drive wheel combined with a torque increase of about 75%," but it doesn't say the base is a direct drive base.

    I'd like to see a video of its internals in action.  That would clear up a lot of questions.
  • da sind ja wirklich einige scherzkeckse dabei … bald fordern sie > jeder die BASE V2 Gratis, versandkosten frei :-)

    Thomas, ab wann werden die Clubsport Shifter wieder versandbereit sein ??


    Ich würde darum bitten, hier etwas mehr Sachlichkeit walten zu lassen (ja, es geht auch auf deutsch) und keine unqualifizierten/beleidigenden Kommentare abzugeben. 

    Es wäre im übrigen auch mal interessant, wieviel € du bisher in FANATEC-Produkte investiert hast. Das Ganze ist nämlich auch immer eine Frage des Ausgangspunktes...

    Ich bin übrigens nicht der einzige, der eine Inzahlungnahme/Rabattlösung für angemessen hält wie man auf den Facebook-Kommentaren oder im offiziellen Assetto Corsa-Forum nachlesen kann. 

    Ich fände es auch - gelinde gesagt - sehr unglücklich,wenn ich z. B. kurz vor der World-Cup-Rabatt-Aktion (war erst vor etwas mehr als 1 Monat) eine CSW zum regulären Preis (450 €) bestellt hätte und jetzt erfahre, dass es sich um das Auslaufmodell handelt, dass schon jetzt nicht mehr angeboten wird. Da käm ich mir ziemlich verschaukelt vor, da dies von FANATEC nie angekündigt oder auch nur angedeutet war.

    Hier wäre eine offenere Kommunikationspolitik von FANATEC angebracht, was natürlich zulasten der Verkaufszahlen der alten Base gegangen wäre. Es war allerdings von FANATEC nie angekündigt worden, dass es (in absehbarer Zeit) eine überarbeitete Version der CSW geben wird. 

    Auch als vor ein paar Wochen im Rahmen des letzten Firmware-Updates der CSW die alte Kritik an den zu schwachen Motoren der Base hier im Forum wieder geäußert wurde, wurde die Begrenzung des FOR-Seeting auf 150 % von FANATEC mit dem Argument verteidigt, dass man "Overclocking" verhindern müsse. Allerdings wurde nicht einmal eine Andeutung gemacht, dass eine neue Version der CSW komnen wird, obwohl sie sich zum damaligen Zeitpunkt schon in einem weit fortgeschrittenen Entwicklungsstadium befunden haben muss.

    Ich bin auch relativ begeistert von den Clubsport-Produkten. Und das Marketing von FANATEC ist auch überwiegend geschickt. Allerdings wird aus meiner Sicht teilweise die Kundenzufriedenheit nicht ausreichend gewürdigt und ich komme mir teilweise ziemlich verschauckelt vor. Wenn nicht mit offenen Karten gespielt wird, steigert das nicht gerade meine Bereitschaft, weitere hunderte von € in die Produkte dieser Firma zu investieren.






    Sorry aber ich sehe hier echt keine Notwendigkeit irgendwelcher Discounts. Wenn du heute einen Fernseher kaufst und morgen ein neues Modell raus kommt bekommst du auch keinen Rabatt wenn du den alten zurück gibtst. Ich mein klar kann ich den Unmut, gerade das ältere (nicht schlechte) Produkt erworben zu haben verstehen. Aber so läuft das nunmal in der heutigen Zeit. Dass Fanatec erst die alten Produkte (sogar mit 40% Discount) abverkauft kann man komplett nachvollziehen. Und sein wir ehrlich, das CSW V1 ist ein echt gutes Lenkrad. Ich besitze derzeit das komplette CSW Setup inkl. 3 Rim's. Ich finde die Bevorzugung der alten Kunden und den 100€ Rabatt mehr als angemessen.
    Klar kostet das etwas Geld, aber du kannst ja deine Rim's weiter verwenden, somit hält sich die Investition in Grenzen.
  • Hello Thomas and Fanatec personnel,

    I have one question. Is there a plan to provide an upgrade package for the CSWB V1 so we can just swap the internals (and back cover as it seems) with the new ones?

    My wheel is freshly out of warranty, if i'm not mistaken, and I'm more than capable of doing it myself (experience with R/C racing pays of in this case :) ). I might upgrade it that way but I don't see myself spending another 500€ when my wheel is still running like new.

    Best regards



  • Sorry aber ich sehe hier echt keine Notwendigkeit irgendwelcher Discounts. Wenn du heute einen Fernseher kaufst und morgen ein neues Modell raus kommt bekommst du auch keinen Rabatt wenn du den alten zurück gibtst. Ich mein klar kann ich den Unmut, gerade das ältere (nicht schlechte) Produkt erworben zu haben verstehen. Aber so läuft das nunmal in der heutigen Zeit. Dass Fanatec erst die alten Produkte (sogar mit 40% Discount) abverkauft kann man komplett nachvollziehen. Und sein wir ehrlich, das CSW V1 ist ein echt gutes Lenkrad. Ich besitze derzeit das komplette CSW Setup inkl. 3 Rim's. Ich finde die Bevorzugung der alten Kunden und den 100€ Rabatt mehr als angemessen.
    Klar kostet das etwas Geld, aber du kannst ja deine Rim's weiter verwenden, somit hält sich die Investition in Grenzen.


    bei Fernsehern hast du schon recht. Aber man kann nicht jede Elektonik über einen Kamm scheren. Bei den meisten Elektronik-Produkten (Fernseher, Handys etc.) weiss ich, dass das Produkt das ich heute kaufe, schon morgen veraltet ist und spätestens im nächsten halben Jahr durch ein neues ersetzt wird. Auch werden die Nachfolgeprodukte  im vorhinein angekündigt. Hier was ich, auf was ich mich einlasse.

    Dies ist aber bei Lenkrädern anders. Hier sind die Produktzyklen wesentlich länger. Das CSW ist in der bisherigen Form ja auch schon seit mehr als 2 Jahren auf dem Markt. 

    Von einer seriösen Firma erwarte ich einfach eine Ankündigung oder wenigstens ein Andeutung, wenn eines neues Produkt in der Mache ist. Von FANATEC ist nichts dergleichen erfolgt.

    Selbst Autohersteller geben schon weit im vorhinein zu einem Modellwechsel den Zeitpunkt des Erscheinens des neuen Modells bekannt. Da kann sich der Kunde entscheiden, ob er lieber jetzt das Auslaufmodell mit alter Technik zu einem (in der Regel) etwas günstigeren Preis kauft oder lieber etwas wartet, um zum etwas höheren Preis das modernere und technisch auf dem neuesten Stand befindliche Nachfolgemodell zu kaufen.
  • Marc,

    if you want to buy a new car and trade in the old one then the dealer pays you about 10-20% less the market value for the old one so he can also earn some money on it because selling a used car is also an effort.

    Selling a base on ebay is easy and I expect prices to be stable as the V1 is far more attractive than many other wheels out there.

    Thomas I will be keeping my old old base for spare. I bought the elite, then CSW and just sitting here waiting for email with money in hand.

    Thank you
    At least you get the 100,- pre-order discount and this is the best we can do.


  • Thomas

    I bought elite wheel, CSW wheel, clubsport sq shifter, clubsport pedals and lots of other small things. Had great luck with all.

    Just sitting here waiting on my email with money in hand.

    Thanks for a great product

  • Thomas,

    When the time is right, a FAQ for the CSW v2 base would be much appreciated.

    Couple (lol ok, more than a couple) questions:

    1. Is it possible to announce which console you have signed a deal with before pre-orders go up?
    2. Is the current universal hub one of the wheels that will work with this console? :)
    3. Will the CSW base v1 continue to be sold?
    4. Will these new "console rims" work with the CSW base v1?
    5. If yes to #4, will attaching these rims enable the CSW base v1 to work on current gen consoles?
    6. Any particular reason you decided to stay with a belt drive system and not go direct drive (pros and cons of DD?) Just curious.
    7. Is the 7NM peak output with or without overclocking?
    8. For the multiple steering wheels at multiple price ranges, I assume that is referring to the console compatibility enabling wheels?
    9. Is the interchangeable steering wheel feature (just that, nothing else) of the universal hub compliant with console manufacturer's rules? (Obviously, buttons will not carry over)
    10. Is there a time table / schedule for sending out invite emails?
    11. Do invites apply to CSW v1 base beta testers?
    12. Even though the CSW v1 base is pretty quiet, has noise changed at all for the v2 base?
    13. After console compatibility is confirmed, is game compatibility still on a game by game basis?

    Thanks!

  • Just for curiosity, does someone knows how powerful is v1 in NN.
    According to ISR the v2 has half of the power the Leo B wheel has, but for a quarter of the price... Impressive!!!
  • edited August 2014
    I'd like an invite too.
    Thanks for consideration

    greenmick
  • Thank you, thank you, thank you.  Great job Fanatec/Thomas.  

    Can't wait for the new base with better motors, more power and increased reliability.  Sounds perfect.  

    This is the news I was waiting for.  Now the only question is how many rims am I going to buy to accompany this new awesome base.....  decisions, decisions.......... :).  
    So then we ask if there will be a v1 FW and a v2 FirmWare.
  • Well, I'm in the second group of people having bought the CSPV2. Cannot wait till I get that e-mail! I bought the TX wheel recently and it continually overheated and shut down. Took it back, got a full refund and have the $$ sitting there waiting and hoping for this exact announcement. =D hope the base lives up to the hype.
  • I'm looking forward to seeing this too, also having purchased many of their products; looks like its going to be a long list ;-)


    cant wait

  • edited August 2014
    Edited and Flagged. I fail at writing posts.

    I asked... If there will be a universal hub adaptor that is compatible with consoles. It would solve wheel rim issues, at least in my Opinion....

    I did not mean to quote Thomas saying that. Please forgive me for any confusion.
  • So thrilled!  But the line is long.  Hoping production ramps up or I win an invite.  Would love the upgrade from a CSR.  Really.  Would.  Love.

    ...and to think I almost pre-ordered the V1 but didn't because I figured this was coming.  All in all, I think it's an awesome move from Fanatec. 

    Fritz

  • Thank you Fanatec, I feel the same way about this company as I do about another great German product manufacture BMW. I have own BMY products since my very firts car, they both produce a product that is more of an experince, an emotion you get when behind the wheel. This is why Fanatic will be my choice of Sim periphrial from here out. Just want to say, great job, cant wait to get my hands on this.
  • Thank you Fanatec, I feel the same way about
    this company as I do about another great German product manufacture BMW. I have
    own BMY products since my very first car, they both produce a product that is
    more of an experience, an emotion you get when behind the wheel. This is why
    Fanatic will be my choice of Sim peripherals from here out. Just want to say,
    great job, can’t wait to get my hands on this.

  • Dear mr. Thomas,

    Can you please send me an invite of the CSW Base V2. I am a past customer of Fanatec US and you can see it on my records here. I just want to have one before my birthday and I know I am not asking too much.

    Thanks santa-Thomas for this advance birthday present. :)

    Cheers!

    Your no.1 fan of fanatec,
    josecarlo1129
  • Hallo an das Team,
    ich bin einer aus einer Gruppe von Konsolenracern, von denen 9 Leute mit einem kompletten Fanatec Setup ausgestattet sind (Adressen als Beweis zum Abgleich mit euren Daten können natürlich vorgelegt werden ;)). Wir sind absolut begeistert von der neuen Base und würden ohne mit der Wimper zu zucken bestellen (Warenkorb mit Wheels war gestern vor der Ankündigung bei einigen von uns bereits gefüllt) ohne die Konsolen-Lenkradaufsätze zu kennen, nur um weiterhin mit euren genialen Produkten wie den CS Pedals weiter racen zu können. Ein bisschen enttäuscht und auch verärgert sind wir jedoch über den 100,- Euro Vorbesteller-Rabatt mit den Einladungen. Denn logischerweise haben wir keine V1 vorbestellt mit dem Wissen, dass sie für die Next-Gen nicht funktioniert. Wir fahren alle mit Porsche GT2/3 und CSR Wheels. Gibt es für Kunden dieser Lenkräder gar keine Chance den Rabatt wahrzunehmen und Bestellungen auszulösen? 

    Über eine Rückmeldung würde ich mich sehr freuen.
    Gruß
    Steven 
  • I'm waiting for code.
  • edited August 2014
    I'm waiting for code.
    We are all waiting!
    I read and read again the presentation page of the CSW BV2 and check my inbox mail every minute. I do not know what are the delay for the waves of emails. Having bought my CSRE in november 2011, I hope I will receive an invitation code very soon. (It is not at all a question to you Thomas, I know your process is well established). We have just to wait... Hours seems like days
    8->
  • edited August 2014
    Hello, I bought a premium package sports club there one year and I still have 1 year warranty.
    I have had 5 back to the support in Germany, each time with the engine and burned issues Quick release.
    Can not play + an hour without its crashes.
    This week he went to the support with the same problems for the sixth time.
    Expect to get an upgrade from my base or base exchange with a v2.
    V2 base has nothing special but corrects the problems of v1 only. (motor burned and quick release modified)
    500e pay for an upgrade is unacceptable.
  • The day has come and I am proud to show you the brand new ClubSport Wheel Base V2.


    waiting for my email


    Although it looks familiar to you it has almost no part which has not been modified or replaced to make it a better base.

    Our focus was durability, durability, durability and then performance.  And while we made a radical re-design, we decided to make an offer nobody can refuse.

    The smoothness, vividness and precision of a Direct Drive wheel combined with a torque increase of about 75% and (optional) compatibility to the latest gaming consoles.  And all that with a moderate price increase.


    Here are the details:

    7 Ultra Precise

    We replaced the optical sensor with two magnetic high resolution hall sensors mounted on both the motor and the steering axis. The new sensors have double the resolution and the magnetic sensore are less vulnerable to dust or scratched code discs.

    6 Smoothastic

    The cogging of this system cannot be felt by a human anymore. It is incredible smooth and feels natural and realistic. It is on par or better with the best and most expensive wheel out there although those wheels costs a multiple of the CSW B V2.

    Every little bump can be felt and effects which were filtered by the wheel mechanics can now be felt. Your racing simulations will feel different and new to you.

    5 Rock Solid

    Our focus was to achieve high durability even for hardcore users.
    •    Improved QR release with rubber o-ring and less tolerance in production
    •    A brushless motor which can be cooled much easier as it gets hot on the outside and not on the inside so heat can be transfered better
    •    New cooling system featuring an additional fan on the backside right behind the new huge heat sink
    •    Integrated heat sensor inside the motor
    •    Motor can now even be operated at 180 C° although the FOR overclocking would be de-activated already at 120 C° and FF would shut down at 130°C. The motor has plenty of power so most people will not use max settings anyway. And during betatests it never happened that a motor was shut down or the FF was cut due to overheating.
    •    Ball bearings on the motor axis and bigger ball bearings inside the pulleys so we can increase the belt tension and avoid any belt slip. At the same time we have much less drag in the system.
    •    Magnetic sensors instead of the optical so we avoid problems with dust and scratches
    •    New main cable
    •    New electronics
    •    And many other small improvements to the overall build quality


    4 Power. A lot.

    The new motor is custom designed and exclusive to Fanatec. Although the gear ratio has been changed to increase the rotation speed, it delivers about 75% more torque than the CSW B V1. This means over 7 NM of sheer
    power and this is enough to use even heavy rims with no disadvantages. The size of the power supply has also increased in order to feed the big motor.

    3 Brushless Servo

    A brushless servo motor is currently state-of-the-art for force feedback systems and in principle this is exactly the same motor as the most expensive direct drive base units out there.
    •    Smooth performance with no cogging (in combination with our Poly-V belt drive system or direct drive)
    •    Easier to cool as the heat is on the outside of the motor and not on the motor shaft
    •    Strong axis with ball bearings
    •    Optimized for use in stall at max power
    •    Fast acceleration
    •    More efficiency -> more torque with same power

    We had to develop entire new electronics for that motor as the motor
    driver is quite complex. Now that it is done we can easily use it for smaller brushless motors or a direct drive wheel.

    2 Next Generation

    The ClubSport Wheel Base V2 is the next generation of ourwheel base but there is also a strong demand of wheels for “Next-Gen” consoles. People were asking us to make their wheels compatible to the Xbox One and Playstation 4  but if we want to make it official and legal then we need to follow the rules of the console makers and they clearly do not allow
    that. 

    So how can we make a product where there is a chance that the customer can keep at least most of the equipment he purchased? We can easily make the pedals, shifters and handbrake compatible and this is what we did but what about the base unit?

    And how can we make a product multi-platform compatible if we can only get approval for a license if the product has only the symbols of either one console on it?

    We came up with an idea which brings modularity to a whole new level and protects your investment. If you play on PC then just go ahead and purchase the wheel base as it is and you will not be bothered with symbols which might hurt your eye.

    But if you want to enjoy the painless simplicity of a console with its great exclusive racing simulations then you will get the option to buy an optional steering wheel which will
    add full console compatibility to this base.

    We want to achieve compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and we are happy to announce that we already signed a contract with one of them. We will announce this product at the end of this year.

    There will be multiple steering wheels available in different price ranges and they will compatible to several Fanatec base units from mid-range to direct drive.

    1 By Invitation Only

    The great response we get from our beta testers lead us to the conclusion that the demand for this product will be much bigger than the supply. Production output will be lower as before as we spend even more time on quality control and testing.

    At the same time we want to honor the loyalty of our existing customers and want to offer a special pre-order discount for the owners of the current ClubSport and CSR Elite base so that they can enjoy a little upgrade advantage.

    This is how it works:
    •    We will send an e-mail to our webshop customers with an invite code. There will be several waves of e-mails in the next months. 
    •    Only after you entered the code to your profile page you will be able to purchase or pre-order this product
    •    After you purchased one V2 base you will receive a second code. You can give that to a friend or buy a second base.
    •  
     Only one code will be given with a purchase as we want to avoid that people are selling their products or invites on eBay and make money with it.
    •    We will also give away invites in giveaway events so frequent followers of the blog or Facebook will also get a chance to get an invite

    This is the priority we will use for the invites to make it as fair and transparent as possible.
    1.    Webshop customers of the CSW B V1 and CSR E (sorted by purchase date)
    2.    Webshop customers of other ClubSport products like CSP or CSS
    3.    All other Fanatec customers

    Of course we will treat all territories with the same priority.

    Not every customer will use his invite so go ahead and ask your friends if they use their invite of if they give it to you in case you are not on the list yet. It is possible and welcome to transfer invite codes.

    Please do not ask our sales team for invites. They are not authorized to give out codes anyway. If it is your turn then you will get an e-mail. We will open a thread in our forum which explains more details and where you can also ask for invites from other members.

    By the way, all lucky customers who placed a pre-order for the old V1 base just got a free upgrade to V2 and they are the first to receive the new product.



    The Price

    Pre-order price:
    EU: 499,95
    USA: 499,95
    AUS: 655
    J: 65.000

    Regular price:
    EU: 599,95
    USA: 599,95
    AUS: 785
    J: 78.000

    Prices are calculated different in the regions depending on taxes, laws, logistic costs and other local costs.

    Availability

    We started production this week and as soon as we start shipping, we will open the pre-orders for the invited guests. The first products should arrive at the end of September or early October.

  • waiting for email the money is burning a hole in my pocket
  • Hallo Thomas und Team, 

    das Warten hat ein Ende. Das Produkt und die Vorgehensweise ist ausgezeichnet und ich freue mich die neue Wheelbase zu bestellen. Vor allem freut mich, dass die Bestandskunden bevorzugt werden.

    Auch über den Quickrelease für Konsolenspieler freue ich mich sehr und werde entsprechende Lenkräder dazu kaufen (jedenfalls für die XBOX ONE). 

    Ein großes Lob an Dich und Dein Team
    Viele Grüße, 
    Webcruise
    PS. eine Frage, hoffe dass die Verbindung wireless zu der XBOX ONE funktioniert
  • Well, I'm in the second group of people having bought the CSPV2. Cannot wait till I get that e-mail! I bought the TX wheel recently and it continually overheated and shut down. Took it back, got a full refund and have the $$ sitting there waiting and hoping for this exact announcement. =D hope the base lives up to the hype.
    Interesting about the TX problems. However while there may be nothing fool proof as far as possible defects from factory I see these upgrades as addressing the main issues with the v1 base and yes I agree with Thomas that we will see more durability in the v2
  • edited August 2014
    Excited to get something that doesn't have that plastic feel!

    See just how solid it is.
  • Also ich muss dazu sagen ich bin eher Enttäuscht über diese Informationspolitik, wieso habt ihr damit nicht bis Ende des Jahres gewartet? Bis alle Fakten fest stehen.

    Als ich gestern bei eurem Support angerufen habe und wissen wollte wie das jetzt mit meinem CSW V1 weitergeht (gekauft im März 2013, mit Rim und Pedals für 900 euro) weil ich den Text in English nicht richtig verstehe der gestern im Blog veröffentlicht wurde, bekam ich als Antwort: Oh den hab ich noch gar nicht gelesen.

    Nachdem ich in der Warte schleife hing und der Kollege Infos eingeholt hatte, war ich genau so schlau wie vorher, mir wurde lediglich gesagt es wird zu gegebener Zeit Infos geben.

    Hallo??  Ich weis bis heute nicht ob ich zwingend die V2 und ein spezielles Rim für die PS4 brauchen werde oder obs eine neue Rim tun wird, ob das ganze Paket, ob jetzt V1 oder V2 überhaubt für die PS 4 tauglich sein wird, hab ich ehrlich gesagt bisher auch nicht geschnallt.

    Ich hab mich die Tage gefreut wie Bolle als der Countdown bei FB runterlief, aber nach dem Tag gestern bin ich mehr verwirrt als je zuvor.

    Ich persönlich werde jedenfalls garnix vorbestellen solange da nicht handfeste Fakten auf den Tisch kommen welche Hardware für welche Konsole zu 100% tauglich sein wird.




  • But I really hope that you can confirm compatibility for PS4 and XBONE soon or at least inform us with which company Fanatec has already managed to sign a contract with
    It's a valid point. I can imagine it would be frustrating to get this if you have PC and PS4 only to find Xbox is the console with first compatibility, or vice versa
  • Can't wait for my V2 Base to arrive! 

    Ordered the V1 last week and received an email to say i would be sent a V2 unit as the V1 is superseeded.

    Great service!


    Wow. So if I did order a CSW last week instead of looking at this **** blog and deciding to wait, I'd be first in line?


    Now I'm stuck with this shitty PWTS for months instead. Great. Just great. >:P
    Ya i guess so.

    Luck of the draw sometimes man, i have been on the fence for months, but my GT3RSv2 packed up last monday so i preordered on Tues evening. Just lucky that they are sending me a V2 Base!

    Things like this usually don't happen to me. I am the guy who would have bought a V1 unknowing that a v2 was round the corner, which is exactly what i did!!

    Looking forward to it! Also got the Carbon Formula Rim on route and the v2 pedals... 
  • does anyone got a code yet?
Sign In or Register to comment.