ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 reviews

The first reviews of our new ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 are coming in and Shaun Cole gives a detailed overview about the product and it's new features:



If you have bought a V2.5 it would be great to share your opinion in the comments as well.
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  • Great review. I thinks I need it! =D>
  • edited April 3
      Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


  • edited April 3

  •   Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    No need to put in multiple topics. We get it. I'm sure Thomas read it.
  •   Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    No need to put in multiple topics. We get it. I'm sure Thomas read it.
    Lol no one asked you to read it
  •   Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    No need to put in multiple topics. We get it. I'm sure Thomas read it.
    Lol no one asked you to read it
    Sony are dead to me, Tommy put your efforts elsewhere bud. As more people are migrating from console to PC  *-:)
  •   Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    No need to put in multiple topics. We get it. I'm sure Thomas read it.
    Lol no one asked you to read it
    I read each blog topic to keep up. How was I not supposed to see each of your posts?!
  • edited April 3
    I've tried a TS-PC racer and a Bodnar wheel (yes, you read it correctly) and I must say the 2.5 feels almost like a DD. Only the power is a bit lower, but it is still an amazing piece of art. Both wheels, the bodnar and V2.5n do make my muscles hurt; which is good, cause I need no gym anymore. So I can't wait for a 3.0 or a DD from Fanatec. So it can be a concurrent to Accuforce. 
  • Hi I'm about to purchase a v2.5 and BMW wheel as well as a csl wheel to use on.my xbox as well as ps4 on dirt rally ps4. My car wheel works great on ps4 and I need to know if the drivers are the same as the car and v2. I understand it won't work with future games but does it work the same as the original v2 and car? Need to know asap? Thanks
  • Csr not car..spell check sorry
  • Hi I'm about to purchase a v2.5 and BMW wheel as well as a csl wheel to use on.my xbox as well as ps4 on dirt rally ps4. My car wheel works great on ps4 and I need to know if the drivers are the same as the car and v2. I understand it won't work with future games but does it work the same as the original v2 and car? Need to know asap? Thanks
    I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, you're going to use the CSW v2.5 on PC and want to use a CSL on XB1 and PS4?
    If yes, then the CSL is not licensed for the PS4 (there's an officially licensed PS4 CSL coming up) and hence will not work with newer games. Older games that still support Fanatec wheels may support the CSL (through the CSW v2 profile), but since it's a new wheel base the support may not be perfect.
  • edited April 4
    Rinus Huisman said: I've tried a TS-PC racer and a Bodnar wheel (yes, you read it correctly) and I must say the 2.5 feels almost like a DD. Only the power is a bit lower, but it is still an amazing piece of art. Both wheels, the bodnar and V2.5n do make my muscles hurt; which is good, cause I need no gym anymore. So I can't wait for a 3.0 or a DD from Fanatec. So it can be a concurrent to Accuforce. 

    Having previously owned a CSW V2 and now being an owner of a Bodnar SS2 [53] I found that there is a major difference between both products. But of course, take into consideration the price difference and you wouldn't expect anything less. I haven't tried the V2.5 so I'm unaware as to whether there is a torque increase from the V2, but considering where it comes in price-wise it's probably unrivalled.



    Emad Alsheblawy said:   Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    Emad I believe its something of an open secret that Thomas has already confirmed that Fanatec
    are working on a DD wheel. It would make no sense for it to compete with a Bodnar, the market is crying out for a DD wheel that can slide into the entry level/Accufore price-band. I know that OSW's are pretty popular at this point, but what made me opt for a Bodnar was the simplicity in setup, OSW's seemed to require a bit more assistance in getting them up to speed, and unless you're currently racing on iRacing - and thus have access to the forums - getting any assistance can be pretty scarce. An advantage Fanatec will have is that their current array of wheels can be integrated with the DD wheel, which will be a USP for the product. Good things come to those who... 
  • One thing that turns Me Off to DD wheels is to have buttons on the Wheel you have to have wires all over the place as the button wiring is Not hidden inside the Drive shaft like on Fanatec wheels.... That would drive Me Nuts!!! for the Existing Fanatec wheel rims Buttons to work means that the wires will be routed and Hidden inside the DD wheel Drive Shaft... Working buttons on the wheel Rim without wires hanging....if this can be done this Fact alone would make the Fanatec DD wheel Top Choice for DD wheel buyers.... I would Buy it in a Heart Beat!!! Imagine a Fanatec DD wheel with the XB1 Hub/Rim Combo!!! thats just a Insane thought Because of all of the Rim Choices available!!!
  • This Review is Spot on Accurate!!! He describes everything that i feel in the wheel!!! Even his cross reference between the V2 & V2.5 is spot on!!! I have a V2 & V2.5 and i agree with his assesment 100% both Great wheels but the V2.5 Drag Free wheel center provides Much better subtle FFB feel which inturn makes the Stronger FFB forces feel Sharper/Crisper and more Defined.
  • Hi I'm about to purchase a v2.5 and BMW wheel as well as a csl wheel to use on.my xbox as well as ps4 on dirt rally ps4. My car wheel works great on ps4 and I need to know if the drivers are the same as the car and v2. I understand it won't work with future games but does it work the same as the original v2 and car? Need to know asap? Thanks
    I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, you're going to use the CSW v2.5 on PC and want to use a CSL on XB1 and PS4?
    If yes, then the CSL is not licensed for the PS4 (there's an officially licensed PS4 CSL coming up) and hence will not work with newer games. Older games that still support Fanatec wheels may support the CSL (through the CSW v2 profile), but since it's a new wheel base the support may not be perfect.
    What I mean to say is. If I plug a csl Base into a ps4 with a BMW rim will it regester as a clubs port v2 and there work with project cars and dirt rally? I understand it won't work with future games but does it still work with the old ones.
  • I've tried a TS-PC racer and a Bodnar wheel (yes, you read it correctly) and I must say the 2.5 feels almost like a DD. Only the power is a bit lower, but it is still an amazing piece of art. Both wheels, the bodnar and V2.5n do make my muscles hurt; which is good, cause I need no gym anymore. So I can't wait for a 3.0 or a DD from Fanatec. So it can be a concurrent to Accuforce. 


    Having previously owned a CSW V2 and now being an owner of a Bodnar SS2 [53] I found that there is a major difference between both products. But of course, take into consideration the price difference and you wouldn't expect anything less. I haven't tried the V2.5 so I'm unaware as to whether there is a torque increase from the V2, but considering where it comes in price-wise it's probably unrivalled.




      Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    Emad I believe its something of an open secret that Thomas has already confirmed that Fanatec are working on a DD wheel. It would make no sense for it to compete with a Bodnar, the market is crying out for a DD wheel that can slide into the entry level/Accufore price-band. I know that OSW's are pretty popular at this point, but what made me opt for a Bodnar was the simplicity in setup, OSW's seemed to require a bit more assistance in getting them up to speed, and unless you're currently racing on iRacing - and thus have access to the forums - getting any assistance can be pretty scarce. An advantage Fanatec will have is that their current array of wheels can be integrated with the DD wheel, which will be a USP for the product. Good things come to those who...  Thx
  • Hi I'm about to purchase a v2.5 and BMW wheel as well as a csl wheel to use on.my xbox as well as ps4 on dirt rally ps4. My car wheel works great on ps4 and I need to know if the drivers are the same as the car and v2. I understand it won't work with future games but does it work the same as the original v2 and car? Need to know asap? Thanks
    I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, you're going to use the CSW v2.5 on PC and want to use a CSL on XB1 and PS4?
    If yes, then the CSL is not licensed for the PS4 (there's an officially licensed PS4 CSL coming up) and hence will not work with newer games. Older games that still support Fanatec wheels may support the CSL (through the CSW v2 profile), but since it's a new wheel base the support may not be perfect.
    What I mean to say is. If I plug a csl Base into a ps4 with a BMW rim will it regester as a clubs port v2 and there work with project cars and dirt rally? I understand it won't work with future games but does it still work with the old ones.
    It will not register as a CSW v2, I'm pretty sure of that. I know that on PC you can just select the CSW v2 profile, but I'm not sure whether it works the same on PS4 (it seems that on XB1 it doesn't).
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  • edited April 5
    I've tried a TS-PC racer and a Bodnar wheel (yes, you read it correctly) and I must say the 2.5 feels almost like a DD. Only the power is a bit lower, but it is still an amazing piece of art. Both wheels, the bodnar and V2.5n do make my muscles hurt; which is good, cause I need no gym anymore. So I can't wait for a 3.0 or a DD from Fanatec. So it can be a concurrent to Accuforce. 


    Having previously owned a CSW V2 and now being an owner of a Bodnar SS2 [53] I found that there is a major difference between both products. But of course, take into consideration the price difference and you wouldn't expect anything less. I haven't tried the V2.5 so I'm unaware as to whether there is a torque increase from the V2, but considering where it comes in price-wise it's probably unrivalled.




      Thomas Fanatec needs to develop a direct drive wheel for PS4 & PC. look at (Leo Bodnar Sim Steering 2 (54) its going for   $4,149.00 if Fanatec make one for that Price ill pay for it just make one
     
     Thomas Jackermeier  i hope you're reading this and put it into consideration i love you're products
    Thank you Thomas Jackermeier for all of you're good work 


    Emad I believe its something of an open secret that Thomas has already confirmed that Fanatec are working on a DD wheel. It would make no sense for it to compete with a Bodnar, the market is crying out for a DD wheel that can slide into the entry level/Accufore price-band. I know that OSW's are pretty popular at this point, but what made me opt for a Bodnar was the simplicity in setup, OSW's seemed to require a bit more assistance in getting them up to speed, and unless you're currently racing on iRacing - and thus have access to the forums - getting any assistance can be pretty scarce. An advantage Fanatec will have is that their current array of wheels can be integrated with the DD wheel, which will be a USP for the product. Good things come to those who... 

    I own a v2 and a v2.5.... While the total wheel power output may still be the same 8NM the v2.5 feels like the power level has increased due to the Drag Free wheel center... also i find that the power ramp up is Smoother and has a more progressive feel to it.... EX: v2= 2 4 6 8 10 -vs- v2.5= 12345678910
  • So the csl won't regester as a clubs port wheel is used with a clubs port wheel rim. ?
  • So the csl won't regester as a clubs port wheel is used with a clubs port wheel rim. ?
    No it's still a CSLE base. Using CSLE fw etc…. The two bases are different and can't be intermingled. The rim doesn't really effect anything unless it's a Xboxone rim and then it just tells the base it's there and the base switches modes.
  • So it's useless even with a BMW rim on older games? I've just bought one
  • Is there a way to update the firmware to a v2 clubs port. This should allow it to work with older games if used with the older BMW wheel. It's still just seen as pc mode in dirt rally on ps4. Which is the only game I care about.
  • Has anyone even tried to do this before?
  • Is there a way to update the firmware to a v2 clubs port. This should allow it to work with older games if used with the older BMW wheel. It's still just seen as pc mode in dirt rally on ps4. Which is the only game I care about.
    The v2.5 has different hardware and electronics, I don't think the v2 firmware is going to work well on it.
  • But has any body tried?
  • edited April 7
    But has any body tried?
    How about you be the first to try??? then if you Brick your wheel let us know :-B and we will All know Not to try it.

    I can Tell you that the V2.5 will not work on PS4...its not even seen/recognized by the PS4...that was part of the deal if you read the forum...Fanatec had to remove all back door ways of the wheel working with Sony product to get a full PS4 compatible wheel deal....Give it up you want something that's not going to happen...Would you risk trashing your business to make a few people who don't want to accept simple facts happy???
  • Sony is an ****, so everything which could be done to hurt them badly is ok. That said I still have PS4 and still gong to keep it. About compability, it seems that ppl hopes would be answered from third party companies. There's already few options to get F's wheels to work with PS4 and there going to more for sure.

    But have to say that F should have fought much harder against Sony, they surrendered way too easy. At least there should have done deal about separate wheel rim-addon to get PS4 compability, ppl can't buy dozens different wheel bases.

  • But has any body tried?
    Too funny, errm I think you try yh, come on don't be shy lol
  • Sony is an ****, so everything which could be done to hurt them badly is ok. That said I still have PS4 and still gong to keep it. About compability, it seems that ppl hopes would be answered from third party companies. There's already few options to get F's wheels to work with PS4 and there going to more for sure.

    But have to say that F should have fought much harder against Sony, they surrendered way too easy. At least there should have done deal about separate wheel rim-addon to get PS4 compability, ppl can't buy dozens different wheel bases.

    You forget Sony holds all the cards here. Say Fanatec fought back hard as you say and Sony said "fine you get NO compatibility. None". Then you'd be saying Fanatec should've worked with Sony and not tried to play hardball when they had no leverage. Seriously I wish people understood how this system works.
  • Sony is an ****, so everything which could be done to hurt them badly is ok. That said I still have PS4 and still gong to keep it. About compability, it seems that ppl hopes would be answered from third party companies. There's already few options to get F's wheels to work with PS4 and there going to more for sure.

    But have to say that F should have fought much harder against Sony, they surrendered way too easy. At least there should have done deal about separate wheel rim-addon to get PS4 compability, ppl can't buy dozens different wheel bases.

    You forget Sony holds all the cards here. Say Fanatec fought back hard as you say and Sony said "fine you get NO compatibility. None". Then you'd be saying Fanatec should've worked with Sony and not tried to play hardball when they had no leverage. Seriously I wish people understood how this system works.
    Dont forget Fanatec played its Last Card when they got the Game devs to program in wheel compatabilty into the Games thereby going around sony... very few cared that the wheel would Not Navigate the PS4 Dash board.. I know i didnt care what mattered Most was that the wheel worked in Game.... Sony Shut that Door by Going after the Game Devs and refusing them the right to make Games for the PS4 if they continued to program in support for Fanatec Wheels....therefore it is Not Fanatec who should have Fought back Harder it is the Game Developers!!! Without Games for the PS4 it would be a useless Paper weight.... The Game Devs Have the Power to Fight back Not Fanatec....But then again with Sony having a Large Following for GT maybe Sony wouldnt care because people will wait and buy it to get their Racing fix??? Bottom Line is Sony is Holding all the Cards!!!...The only way to change it would be a Mass Movement to Boycott Sony Products until they change their ways..... Shame that this wont happen... Because the truth is as Consumers we Hold and Have ALL power!!! Do what we want or we refuse to buy!!! we saw this work with MS & Sony they had to change their DRM policy or Risk both systems flopping becuse No one was going to buy it so they changed it.
  • So, am I wrong to say that "V 2.5" screams "There will soon be a V 3? What´s the idea behind 2.5 instead of 3?

    btw. will there be invitation codes like we had for the V2?
  • We use .5 version numbers if there was a significant but not huge step. There will be a V3 for sure but not anytime soon. Otherwise we would not have developed a 2.5 ;) No invite codes this time. We ship it already.
  • Have had my V2.5 base with BMW wheel and V3 inverted peddles since 4-21-17 and I am very happy so far . Force feed back is stone enough to make your arms hurt ! Very happy with the wheel and peddles . One question , how do I get the relights to work on the wheel ini racing ?

    Great products ! Keep up the good work .  
  • Have had my V2.5 base with BMW wheel and V3 inverted peddles since 4-21-17 and I am very happy so far . Force feed back is stone enough to make your arms hurt ! Very happy with the wheel and peddles . One question , how do I get the relights to work on the wheel ini racing ?

    Great products ! Keep up the good work .  
    You need to download Fanaleds. But iRacing or fanaleds might not support them with the 2.5 yet. I'm not sure.
  • hello,

    I'd like to know if I could run old games like rfactor, GTL.. with the V2.5 ?

    thanks !
  • hello,

    I'd like to know if I could run old games like rfactor, GTL.. with the V2.5 ?

    thanks !
    For sure they won't support this exact wheel but the wheel will work with them just fine using one of the FFB profiles available (I think Logitech will do jsut fine).

    They only thing that you may encounter is that some buttons will not work, I know from experience that GTL only supports 16 buttons or so, so any button with a higher number will not work. It can be worked around with programs like Joy2Key with which you map a wheel button to a keyboard key, and you then map the keyboard key to the function you want to work with the wheel button.
  • edited May 3
    Have had my V2.5 base with BMW wheel and V3 inverted peddles since 4-21-17 and I am very happy so far . Force feed back is stone enough to make your arms hurt ! Very happy with the wheel and peddles . One question , how do I get the relights to work on the wheel ini racing ?

    Great products ! Keep up the good work .  
    You need to download Fanaleds. But iRacing or fanaleds might not support them with the 2.5 yet. I'm not sure.
    The latest beta fanaleds support the v2.5 wheel base. Works with iracing. I don't see any way to turn up the rumble in the pedals though its almost non existent.
  • so far not pleased at all, bought the V2.5, v3 pedals and the csl p1, software wouldn't work, ask for some help several times with no help at all,Had to research many hours on my own to find beta drivers, it somewhat wot works but zero resistance in wheel at all. AND STILL NO HELP FROM FANATEC!! I will be returning before 14 days is up i guess. Thanks for nothing Fanatec...
  • so far not pleased at all, bought the V2.5, v3 pedals and the csl p1, software wouldn't work, ask for some help several times with no help at all,Had to research many hours on my own to find beta drivers, it somewhat wot works but zero resistance in wheel at all. AND STILL NO HELP FROM FANATEC!! I will be returning before 14 days is up i guess. Thanks for nothing Fanatec...
    Where/how did you ask for help?
  • One of my concerns is that if a game suddenly crash, due whatever reasons, the steering wheel will still apply force. ie. going either to the left or the right. Also the rumble of either the brake of throttle will still rumble when the game has crashed/terminated. It might be useful to add a kill-switch/button for the base or all the peripherals. Just like DD wheels have this kill-switch to press when you crash the car. In this case it would be useful to have it to kill the base and its peripherals to avoiding damage to the electronics and hardware. Maybe I could switch off the base by pressing the button, but sometimes that don't help the wheel will still apply force. 

    Kind regards,

    Rinus
  • so far not pleased at all, bought the V2.5, v3 pedals and the csl p1, software wouldn't work, ask for some help several times with no help at all,Had to research many hours on my own to find beta drivers, it somewhat wot works but zero resistance in wheel at all. AND STILL NO HELP FROM FANATEC!! I will be returning before 14 days is up i guess. Thanks for nothing Fanatec...
    I am sure the wheel works as it should, Its not a plug n play device as such, unlike Thrustmasters stuff, Micheal have some patients my friend. Its all good. You might have to do more research in these forums.  
  • One of my concerns is that if a game suddenly crash, due whatever reasons, the steering wheel will still apply force. ie. going either to the left or the right. Also the rumble of either the brake of throttle will still rumble when the game has crashed/terminated. It might be useful to add a kill-switch/button for the base or all the peripherals. Just like DD wheels have this kill-switch to press when you crash the car. In this case it would be useful to have it to kill the base and its peripherals to avoiding damage to the electronics and hardware. Maybe I could switch off the base by pressing the button, but sometimes that don't help the wheel will still apply force. 

    Kind regards,

    Rinus
    Yup, 100% agree with you on this one, this should totally be done in fact, 

    this should have been implemented since the V2 imo.
    maybe have the killswitch on top of the base, and then maybe the same switch to rest the current setting after say a three second long depress. this a fab idea,
    Although  Iam sure Thomas may have thought about this before tho, maybe ???  
    :-??
  • One of my concerns is that if a game suddenly crash, due whatever reasons, the steering wheel will still apply force. ie. going either to the left or the right. Also the rumble of either the brake of throttle will still rumble when the game has crashed/terminated. It might be useful to add a kill-switch/button for the base or all the peripherals. Just like DD wheels have this kill-switch to press when you crash the car. In this case it would be useful to have it to kill the base and its peripherals to avoiding damage to the electronics and hardware. Maybe I could switch off the base by pressing the button, but sometimes that don't help the wheel will still apply force. 

    Kind regards,

    Rinus

    Great Idea. Some games even when not crashing and just spinning out can cause the wheel to violently rotate.
  • Thank you for the replies. I am glad to hear people are facing the same issue. I was thinking that it's perhaps an idea to make the switch compatible with the data connection of the base. To my knowledge the data connection is almost uhmm never used by people. Another option is to sell or add a dual powercord that has an 'split' to the kill-switch so you can tell the power-adapter to shut down. Maybe that's an option. I am not a electician, so I don't know how this works. 
  • Thank you for the replies. I am glad to hear people are facing the same issue. I was thinking that it's perhaps an idea to make the switch compatible with the data connection of the base. To my knowledge the data connection is almost uhmm never used by people. Another option is to sell or add a dual powercord that has an 'split' to the kill-switch so you can tell the power-adapter to shut down. Maybe that's an option. I am not a electician, so I don't know how this works. 
    This is even a better idea, hopefully an item like this will be for sale soon in the Fanatec store, and hopefully Thomas gets to see your post  *-:)
  • edited May 11
    For the CSW Series we did n ot plan to make a kill Switch yet but a very easy cheap and simple solution would be to place a power plug with button beside the rig. A more elegant solution would be a remote control to shut down the power. Those are available for 20 USD.
  • That remote looks like a interesting option. Thank you, sir Jackmeier. Another note is would it harm the base, etc, by suddenly turn off the power? If no, then I will take a look into the options you suggested. 

    Kind regards,

    Rinus 

    ps. If you ever make a kill switch I would probably buy it, cause it looks awesome, haha. 
  • Since I cannot edit my last post I want to add another note to the CSW 2.5:

    Today I had to babysit my nephew. After 4 hours of ultimate fun I came back to my home and noticed I left my base on. I am not the richest human being on earth so I love to save on my electricitybill. Another hazard is fire, ofcourse. 

    Now I know Thrustmaster wheel turn off when you shutdown the PC. Isn't this an optional option in the software too for the CSW 2.5? or perhaps is it an idea to put a sleeptimer-clock into the base itself to shut down after a hour or so of inactivity? 

    Kind regards,

    Rinus 
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