Fanatec CSL Elite Racing Wheel - GT Sport Compatibility - UPDATE

edited October 2017 in Blog
Announcement:

"Some of you might have tried the demo version of GT Sport which is online as of today.
Unfortunately, at this time it is not possible to select the CSL Elite Racing Wheel in the GT Sport controller options menu. Therefore players can’t enjoy some of the wheels advanced features in the game, such as Force Feedback.
We apologize for any inconvenience caused, and are working hard with our engineers and partners with the aim of rectifying this for the games launch. We will continue to update you and appreciate your patience. "


UPDATE

GT Sport has been released and it works great with the Fanatec CSL Elite Racing Wheel. Due to time constraints, Polyphony was not yet able to fully implement our wheel in the controller options menu but you can enjoy full force feedback and support for the rev lights and the ClubSport Shifter if you install the latest firmware v335 (which is included in the driver v293) on your wheel.
This firmware has a revised compatibility mode which now adds compatibility to:
  • GT Sports
  • F1 2016
  • WRC6
  • DriveClub

Polyphony assured us that they will fully implement our wheel and that they are working on it. In the meantime you can already enjoy the game with the compatibility mode.

Please let us know your preferred Tuning settings for the new games.

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Comments

  • Thanks Thomas, just to confirm....is it as a result of Fanatec or Polyphony?
  • KURWA MAĆ  :-( 
  • I realy want to buy the fanatec wheel . But i want the best experience on gt sport . Soo sad .dont know what to do i have my seat ready w8ting for the wheel . Help me plz . Fanatec wheel gona be totaly functional ? No mater if its after the game release but tell something plz. I dont want to buy trustshi****.
  • edited October 2017
    Thnx for clarification Thomas. Demand compatibility or else... License fee pay back ;)
  • bonjour !!jai le csl elite et jai fait la beta de gtsport!! cest vrai dans le menu on peut ni calibrer pedale ni voulant!!pas de sensation on dirait que la base est meme pas allumer!!! manque de ffb!!!volant mou!!
  • edited October 2017
    Some quotes from various Fanatec pages (e.g. FAQ, etc...).

    From page Introducing our first officially licensed racing wheel for PlayStation®4 (PS4™) - UPDATE 1
    "Enables advanced functionality with select upcoming compatible games, including GT Sport."

    From FAQ page
    "All upcoming advanced driving simulator games with support of force feedback racing wheels will be compatible."
    I would assume this includes GT Sport as well.

    And a former statement from Thomas from August this year.
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  • Thanks for the update Thomas. I bought this wheel mainly for GT Sport, and I wanted to test it on a fully compatible game prior to buying GT Sport so I purchased Assetto Corsa & F1 2017. Whilst I'm really struggling with Assetto Corsa and my BMW Rim to feel forces, direct inputs and a sense of what the wheel is doing in relation to the car with my Formila rim it feels great. I hope like many others this gets resolved otherwise i'll be very gutted to hear that in selling my full T300RS setup with a prototype load cell i'll no longer be able to enjoy GT Sport as I and i'm sure Fanatec intended. 

    Thanks for your support! 

    Any advice or Assetto Corsa would be appreciated - My BMW rim feels very light I don't get any forces through the wheel relative to my inputs and it's very difficult to steer with the device in game. Formula Carbon feels great!

    Thanks all :)
  • bonjour !!jai le csl elite et jai fait la beta de gtsport!! cest vrai dans le menu on peut ni calibrer pedale ni voulant!!pas de sensation on dirait que la base est meme pas allumer!!! manque de ffb!!!volant mou!!
    English please
  • edited October 2017

    I wouldn't call it a solution. It's a workaround. What I expect is that the CSL Elite wheel is listed here in the 'options' screen which is not the case so far and in fact a clear breach in terms of what was announced earlier.

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  • I wouldn't call it a solution. It's a workaround. What I expect is that the CSL Elite wheel is listed here in the 'options' screen which is not the case so far and in fact a clear breach in terms of what was announced earlier.

    Couldn't agree with you more here Thorsten! To find the news yesterday was official was shocking. I had previously been assured by Gran Turismo when asking about a spotter for online whether the CSL was to be featured and they stated all wheels new and existing would be featured on GT Sport. Further to that, it was a listed title to the CSL page under supported titles which is when I bought Assetto Corsa to fill the gap to use a fully supported title prior to GT Sport's console release. Let's hope a solution is found quickly otherwise CSL users will be impeded when it comes to our development vs other console users across the varying modes within the title. 
  • Glad I read this post today as can cancel my order for GTSPORT until this is fully resolved. ( I have ordered the full £104 version so a lot of money down the drain if unresolved ) Fortunately there is more than enough to keep me satisfied with F12017 and Project Cars2 ALTHOUGH very disappointed with WRC7 which despite all my efforts continues to feel like you are driving on a snooker table rather than Tarmac, Dirt and Ice and Snow !!! Fanatec tell me that I should have the PS4 wheel on factory settings in order that the game itself supplys the info as the game developers intended but not what I was expecting. Anyone else having the same issues and will GTSPORT be any better is feeling the track info particularly things like Kerbs?
    Announcement:

    "Some of you might have tried the demo version of GT Sport which is online as of today.
    Unfortunately, at this time it is not possible to select the CSL Elite Racing Wheel in the GT Sport controller options menu. Therefore players can’t enjoy some of the wheels advanced features in the game, such as Force Feedback.
    We apologize for any inconvenience caused, and are working hard with our engineers and partners with the aim of rectifying this for the games launch. We will continue to update you and appreciate your patience. "




  • edited October 2017
  • hello!!there is not return of force!!in the menu of the games one can not calibrate neither the steering wheel nor the pedals!!the steering wheel is soft as if the bas was extinct!!! sory  for my english!!!!  thanks
  • edited October 2017
    Recently bought Pcars2 and WRC7 for PS4 and tried GTsport today. They all feel just as bad. No road or curb feel whatsoever. It's so bad that i can't play the games with my csl elite. Starting to wonder if this is more than just a coincidence.
  • edited October 2017
    It does not work, I am sorry. The post was corrected. 
    So no workaround at all. But Thomas apologized and mentioned he appreciate our patience. So let's hope that it is just a question of time (hopefully weeks) and won't boil down to an unsolved issue between Sony and Fanatec.

    But however this story ends when you compare the initial promising announcements with the current situation this aftertaste remains...


  • I just spent over $600 dollars and the wheel won't work on the GT SPORT there is no Excuse for this
  • It depends on whose fault it was.
  • Time will show.. at the end is the demo the known beta of the game. So maybe the support is not build in cause it is not the final game?
    I mean look in the game manual of this Demo/Beta.. there are also wrong name declarations of the wheels.. would not the first game in Beta/Demo status what would have much of failers.. you all can be happy that you can go into settings.. in my system it does not work :) 

    So day one patch have to fix it .. i can understand all of you
  • Thank you so much for the support and letting us know what’s happening! Please keep us updated.
  • I think irrespective of what happens or when we receive support something has gone array here which isn't acceptable given the guarantee's we had prior to purchasing the product from developers and Fanatec which I believe why many upgraded. Fanatec is at least in the PC market known as a high end wheel company and seen as an upgrade from the Logitec / Thurstmaster offerings previously available to console users. Whilst i've had difficulty in finding much improvement over my T300 my hope is with greater research and development between Fanatec & developers we can have the high end wheel for console we all associate with Fanatec. 

    I bought the CSL and then bought the CSL LC pedals, Formula Carbon (For F1 2017) and the BMW GT2 Rim for GT Sport / Assetto Corsa and whilst as i've mentioned i've had real issues with Assetto Corsa & my BMW rim it's still a lot that now might not be realised as we all anticipated.

    So here's hoping as Polyphony have the files the support will be in the release version. Important to note this version is a demo not a beta, the closed beta periods were all completed prior to this being released I would imagine this version is a gold version if not for a few minor tweaks. 


  • I feel like Thrustmaster is trolling with this post. Almost like they know the situation with Fanatec wheels not being supported. I really hope this gets fixed.
  • I feel like Thrustmaster is trolling with this post. Almost like they know the situation with Fanatec wheels not being supported. I really hope this gets fixed.
    Makes me wonder whether Thrustmaster and Polyphony have engineered this! Either way the Fanatec products are far superior to theirs and I would rather enjoy my F12017 and Project Cars 2 with Fanatec. Would be disappointed not to experience GTSPORT but given the delay in releasing their game I think it has allowed other game developers to catch up.
  • Ok, so far we have this single statement from Thomas. Thanks for that. But this story becomes interesting when we go back a few weeks. Initially GT Sport was listed on the FAQ page as one of the supported games. Then suddenly it disappeared from exactly that list without any explanation. That was the beginning from what we see now. So it would be great to hear something about that phenomenom as well.
  • I feel like Thrustmaster is trolling with this post. Almost like they know the situation with Fanatec wheels not being supported. I really hope this gets fixed.
    Makes me wonder whether Thrustmaster and Polyphony have engineered this! Either way the Fanatec products are far superior to theirs and I would rather enjoy my F12017 and Project Cars 2 with Fanatec. Would be disappointed not to experience GTSPORT but given the delay in releasing their game I think it has allowed other game developers to catch up.
    I agree. I had the choice of buying the T-GT from Thrustmaster or the CSL Elite. I went with Fanatec because I feel they have a superior product as well. I bought it with high hopes of it being properly supported in GT Sport. I read numerous posts from Fanatec before I made the purchase saying it would definitely be supported. I have faith it will get sorted, but I definitely think something is up with Polyphony and Thrustmaster. They’re probably trying to sway people into buying the T-GT since they have a marketing deal together.
  • edited October 2017
    It's very simple. Officially licensed wheel for PS4 MUST support all new PS4 racing games. 
  • edited October 2017
    "I have faith it will get sorted, but I definitely think something is up with Polyphony and Thrustmaster. They’re probably trying to sway people into buying the T-GT since they have a marketing deal together."

    That would be quite tough but actually it makes sense. I can't wait to get an update on this...
  • It seems there is always a new drama. I bought the ps4 wheel and Base day one. Just a few months after buying the orginal csl Base for the xbox. Not to mention the BMW wheel. Sold my logitech. Then drive club vr doesn't work and now gt sport!!! It's bad enough gt sports vr setting's are supposedly ****. They left it out of the demo. After advertising it as a launch title. Once again Sony ****'s on its loyal customers. Sort it out Sony. Fix gt sport..and drive club while your at it!
  • It depends on whose fault it was.
    We know who's fault it is. Sony at it again.
  • There is only one problem... the wheel works fine, all buttons works and are mapped right, pedals work, buttons works also in PS4 OS, so it’s not sonys problem, the problem is with polyphony. They havn’t optimized the fanatec wheel at all, ofcours when you have thrustmaster so far up your ass u dont see things trough, anyways, it’s up to polyphony to fixit, fanatec is a licenced wheel some kind of mandate should fanatec have to get em to make the wheel fully compatible with GTS. Fanatec could fix it with a firmware update but still no support for all mappings and extended force feedback settings
  • So does that mean we are at there mercy?
  • bonjour !!jai le csl elite et jai fait la beta de gtsport!! cest vrai dans le menu on peut ni calibrer pedale ni voulant!!pas de sensation on dirait que la base est meme pas allumer!!! manque de ffb!!!volant mou!!
    This forum is English only.
  • Looks like we need a "G29 Mode" added with the next firmware update :-p
  • edited October 2017

    Thomas Jackermeier said:
    •  Assetto Corsa and Dirt 4 are the first fully compatible titels and many more will follow. This includes F1 2017, Project Cars II and of course GT Sport.

    So the Polyphony crew has to do some homework in order to comply with the licence agreement.

  • There is only one problem... the wheel works fine, all buttons works and are mapped right, pedals work, buttons works also in PS4 OS, so it’s not sonys problem, the problem is with polyphony. They havn’t optimized the fanatec wheel at all, ofcours when you have thrustmaster so far up your ass u dont see things trough, anyways, it’s up to polyphony to fixit, fanatec is a licenced wheel some kind of mandate should fanatec have to get em to make the wheel fully compatible with GTS. Fanatec could fix it with a firmware update but still no support for all mappings and extended force feedback settings
    PD is owned by Sony if I remember right. So it defo IS $ony's fault!
  • Looks like we need a "G29 Mode" added with the next firmware update :-p
    I used the g25/27 mode quite a lot with my fanatec gt3rsv2 sometimes I get better FFB using that mode in certain games
  • I'm not happy about the game itself.
    Other than graphically, nothing has changed. Tire noise is still the same as the previous titles. Dirt races handling feels horrendous. The car doesn't have grip whatsoever. The cars feel very sloppy.
    For the amount of time the game has been in development, I would expect something more refined.
    Don't tell me that it is just a demo and things may change until the game is getting release because i doubt much will change until 10/17/2017.
    Overall I'm not very pleased with the experience and the fact that the wheel is not compatible with the game does not bother me a bit.
    With all the great titles out there, I rather save my money and spend it on other more polished simulation games.
  • CAN WE HAVE AN UPDATE PLEASE THOMAS?

  • I think the situation will remain unchanged at least for some weeks. We definitely won't see the CSL Elite wheel supported by the GT Sport demo. There is no reason for Sony/Polyphony to deliver a patch for the demo at least based on their way of thinking...

    So IMHO the simple question to Thomas is: "Can we expect that the wheel will be fully supported as announced or not?"

     
  • I know I'm in the same boat as a lot of you guys. I only bought this wheel because of GT Sport. I was quite happy with my CSW V1 for previous GT games and for PCARS 2 that I'm really enjoying on the PC. The new wheel works great for PCARS 2 but I didn't need it. I'm sure they will sort this out for GT Sport but again the question is when? 
  • Other question is... Will Fanatec accept the Return of the CSL set?  I have not even opened the boxes, I have a CSW V2.0 with Porsche wheel etc.. That I am perfectly happy with, as I play most games on my PC specially now that Microsoft releases all games also in PC. This wheel was just to play GT

  • I think the situation will remain unchanged at least for some weeks. We definitely won't see the CSL Elite wheel supported by the GT Sport demo. There is no reason for Sony/Polyphony to deliver a patch for the demo at least based on their way of thinking...

    So IMHO the simple question to Thomas is: "Can we expect that the wheel will be fully supported as announced or not?"

     
    I see no reason why it will not be supported. But we need to know to what extent (rev lights, shifter, handbrake, force feedback, etc) and a confirmed date. We are on it and Sony Europe is taking this very serious as well.
  • edited October 2017
    Thomas Jackermeier said: What is the status?

    I think the situation will remain unchanged at least for some weeks. We definitely won't see the CSL Elite wheel supported by the GT Sport demo. There is no reason for Sony/Polyphony to deliver a patch for the demo at least based on their way of thinking...

    So IMHO the simple question to Thomas is: "Can we expect that the wheel will be fully supported as announced or not?"

     
    I see no reason why it will not be supported. But we need to know to what extent (rev lights, shifter, handbrake, force feedback, etc) and a confirmed date. We are on it and Sony Europe is taking this very serious as well.
    Is it fix next week?
  • edited October 2017
    Hi Thomas, thanks for your reply. Based on the original announcement everyones expectation is simply full support for this official licenced wheel. So all your valuable customers who purchased this great wheel and more from your shop (you might want to have a closer look on my profile picture...) would be happy to see how this will be reached soon....
  • Thomas Jackermeier said: What is the status?

    I think the situation will remain unchanged at least for some weeks. We definitely won't see the CSL Elite wheel supported by the GT Sport demo. There is no reason for Sony/Polyphony to deliver a patch for the demo at least based on their way of thinking...

    So IMHO the simple question to Thomas is: "Can we expect that the wheel will be fully supported as announced or not?"

     
    I see no reason why it will not be supported. But we need to know to what extent (rev lights, shifter, handbrake, force feedback, etc) and a confirmed date. We are on it and Sony Europe is taking this very serious as well.
    Is it fix next week?
    Unfortunately given the context which we're writing in I don't believe it will be which will be a great shame and our only hope especially for those interested in the online mode. Our hope is that we won't be too far behind progression and non Fanatec users and can still enjoy the values and experience the title from day one. (Whenever that will be) 

    However I do live with the hope that Fanatec have bridged this connection between the company and Sony in the pursuit of becoming the industry specialist in wheel bases for console users. We must reflect back on how far things have progressed in the short time which we've been able to use the CSL Base, introduction of FEI and that alone shows that whilst we race on console Fanatec share the same passion for our racing environment as much as the saturated PC market.

    Whilst I've had issues with setup, especially in Assetto Corsa with the BMW rim I have faith that we as a community are in good hands here and Thomas and his team are continuing to innovate and support us to the best of their capabilities within the barriers that come with developing software and products for the console market.

    Fingers crossed for a resolution soon! 

    (Any Assetto Corsa tips are appreciated)
  • Hi Thomas, thanks for your reply. Based on the original announcement everyones expectation is simply full support for this official licenced wheel. So all your valuable customers who purchased this great wheel and more from your shop (you might want to have a closer look on my profile picture...) would be happy to see how this will be reached soon....
    Perfectly stated. Thomas’s reply did not instill any confidence in me. “Should be no reason” and “to what extent” doesn’t come across as very reassuring. I realize there is a process to these things and that they don’t happen overnight, but there has been a lot of time leading up to both the release of the CSL Elite and Gran Turismo Sport where this should have been taken care of or at the very least better communication between Polyphony/Sony and Fanatec so that there wasn’t so much confusion.
  • Hi Thomas, thanks for your reply. Based on the original announcement everyones expectation is simply full support for this official licenced wheel. So all your valuable customers who purchased this great wheel and more from your shop (you might want to have a closer look on my profile picture...) would be happy to see how this will be reached soon....
    Perfectly stated. Thomas’s reply did not instill any confidence in me. “Should be no reason” and “to what extent” doesn’t come across as very reassuring. I realize there is a process to these things and that they don’t happen overnight, but there has been a lot of time leading up to both the release of the CSL Elite and Gran Turismo Sport where this should have been taken care of or at the very least better communication between Polyphony/Sony and Fanatec so that there wasn’t so much confusion.
    100%.

    I have concerns now that should I need to sell my setup (CSL Base, Formula Rim, BMW Rim LC Pedals) that I wouldn't see a return or perhaps not even a sale given the concerns raised both in compatibility and quality. When it comes to the feedback sensations F1 is okay but I don't have high expectations given where the title sits in the marketplace. But for something like Assetto Corsa asides from using the Formula Carbon Rim it's been very disappointing with the BMW GT2 rim, maybe it's too big for the base but the wheel feels very light little transfer of forces and sensations and I find myself just defaulting to the Formula even if that rim isn't authentic to the car. 

    I think this whole process is one of patience and trust in Fanatec to reach a solution and help tailor our hardware to bring the best out of the software which they've been designed to work with. I think in the initial stages however we're going to see issues both in game and with developers. I say that because prior to Fanatec coming to the market the previous wheels had no tuning only in game so whilst a wheel may feel bad in my case the BMW rim it maybe due to a wheel setting but then you have the issue of changing settings per rim and that's just not pratical on a system where we can't store custom profiles.

    Maybe Fanatec have bitten off more than they can chew, in the pursuit of trying to become a leader in the racing industry for non direct drive wheels prior to the Podium series. That said at present I've questioned on several occasions whether i'm actually seeing upgrades over my T300 package for the price spent. If it was a CSW 2.5 it would be a totally different sensation but an entry level CSL to me is comparable in many ways to the T300 and i'm concerned as to it's longevity given how complex things are vs the performance we get which I feel there's actually better alternatives on the market at present 

    Hope this changes and we've all made good investments with Fanatec and it's team.

     
  • Some intresting observations, tired project cars 1 with csl e ps4, and put it in csw support mode (purple) played for 4 min the i quit the game and put the wheel back to blue ps4 mode, o felt that the wheel had a different feeling and was draging the wheel back to center, a little different from normal feeling. Started GT sport again went for a simple arcade race and i felt a little vibration from the wheel when i drove over curbs and when i hit a barier, some of the force feedback was where but it was very little
  • I refuse to believe this is some kind of oversight on sonys behalf. They clearly ignored fanatec users with Regard's to driveclub. Even when the licencing agreement was made they didn't bother patching the game even with the new driveclub vr which was only out a few months. Fanatec are definitely on they're radar as there is only 3 or 4 (if you include madcatz)major wheel makers in the world when it comes to console gamers. It's like a Beatles fan forgetting John lennon was part of the band. It smells bad. Fanatec is at the top of this very short list. Cut the crap sony!!!
  • Think how many games they would sell it they stopped alienating there core consumers. I've cancelled my preorder. Thank God for for a 7
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