Podium Wheel Bases - All the Info you need

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  • For those of us who own both PS4 and Xbox One, if you put an Xbox One universal hub on the PS4 compatible DD1, can you use It on Xbox too?
    Yes
  • edited July 2018
    Ordered @ 4:30pm!!! <-- New York Time :D
  • Only wen the Podium Racing Wheel - officially licensed for PS4™ EU is out i will buy Podium DD2 Base.. i hope it will not be that long
  • edited July 2018
    Thank you, Thomas, for being here in this thread for our questions.

    I'm very enthusiastic about these DD's. They look great, and with the features and simplicity/compatibility, it seems like good value for the price.
    I'm already knee deep in Fanatec equipage ... I can hardly wait for my new Podium base for Festivus, this winter!!
  • Hi Thomas, any more information about the resolution of the wheelbase ?
  • edited July 2018
    For those of us who own both PS4 and Xbox One, if you put an Xbox One universal hub on the PS4 compatible DD1, can you use It on Xbox too?
    "Xbox One®: The compatibility can be upgraded with (optional) steering wheels like the ClubSport Steering Wheel Universal Hub for Xbox One or the Steering Wheel CSL P1 for Xbox One. Without any Xbox One® licensed steering wheel attached, the wheel base is NOT compatible to Xbox One®."

  • Willy, I am with you.  I do not see the compelling case being made for the Podium over the OSW.  If Barry Roland puts together a compelling review, it may go a long  way towards salvaging this product, but as it stands it would appear that Fanatec has overplayed their hand.  The fact that it has been this delayed in getting to market could speak to some reliability issue(s). Certainly the product does not look different from the the form factor that appeared last September.  That makes me think performance - not supply chain - was/is the issue.  It's a safe bet that DD2 production has not begun in earnest yet.  Also, it sounds like a fair amount of engineering went into the contacts between the wheel electronics and the base allowing for "infinite rotation". I'm not sure why you need infinite rotation other than to claim an advantage over relatively cheap and user replacable USB cords - a solution employed in actual race cars btw...

    The V2 (and now V2.5) were good value propositions  providing better fidelity and reliability over TM and LGT offerings for a couple hundred more along with the Fanatec universe of peripherals.  I will get some popcorn and watch as this unfolds.  
  • Hi Thomas, any more information about the resolution of the wheelbase ?
    The same question was asked in the iRacing forums. Here was Thomas' response:

    "Hi Kevin 

    The sole resolution is completely misleading and therefore we do not mention it. On the graph I have shown in the live stream you can see that the torque ripple is on par with best DD out there and this is what matters. It takes a good sensor but also good firmware and motor design. 

    Yeah I was surprised how many people did not get my joke in the beginning. People take simracing way too serious image"
  • Thank you, Thomas, for being here in this thread for our questions.

    I'm very enthusiastic about these DD's. They look great, and with the features and simplicity/compatibility, it seems like good value for the price.
    I'm already knee deep in Fanatec equipage ... I can hardly wait for my new Podium base for Festivus, this winter!!
    Thank you!

  • For those of us who own both PS4 and Xbox One, if you put an Xbox One universal hub on the PS4 compatible DD1, can you use It on Xbox too?
    Yes
    Awesome! Thank you so much!
  • edited July 2018
    I may have missed this in the live stream or somewhere else, but is there any mention of a shipping date for the various models? July 30th was mentioned as when the DD1 auctions will go live, is this when the DD2 will ship? And I would imagine the Podium Racing Wheel for PS4 will ship sometime after that? Or are shipping dates still unknown at this point? 

    Thanks!

    Edit: Sorry missed it. Site shows December for DD2.
  • edited July 2018
    How long will the DD2 be available for preorder?

    Can we expect it to be available for pre-order in 1-2 month as well?

    I was so lucky to pre-order the McLaren Rim and a short time after, there was no option to preorder it any more, iirc. Worried this might happen to the DD2 as well.
  • How long will the DD2 be available for preorder?

    Can we expect it to be available for pre-order in 1-2 month as well?

    I was so lucky to pre-order the McLaren Rim and a short time after, there was no option to preorder it any more, iirc. Worried this might happen to the DD2 as well.
    There is no limitation but it will be shipped on a first come first serve basis.
  • The PS4 racing wheel is an entire different SKU and comes with different electronics as there is a security chip included.
    The DD1 will NOT be PS4 compatible. It is a different wheel.

    Will the DD1-PS4 version be compatible with all the clubsport steering wheels on the PS4, or only with the included steering wheel? Thanks!
  • I could not find any information regarding the dimensions and mounting plates/layout/possibilities?!

    How wide, deep and high is the case?
    Is it compatible with the CSW floor screw mounting layout - can it be mounted not from the side, but screwed to the bottom like a CSW v2?
  • edited July 2018
    Hi Thomas, is the DD2 price is right in the Fanatec Japan ?  I want to make a pre-order but i think only in Japan it's overpriced, just to give an exemple the
    CSW v2.5 
    US 499.95 = 56,200 jp Yen
    EU 549.95 = 72,400 jp Yen
    AU 829.90 = 69,500 jp Yen
    JP  64,900 = 579.00 US$ 

    Podium DD2
    US 1,499.95 = 169,000 jp Yen
    EU 1,499.95 = 198,000 jp Yen
    AU 2,499.90 = 209,000 jp Yen
    JP  249,900  = 2,224.00 US$

    it costs 724.00 US$ more, i'm sorry Thomas but, if the Podium DD2 costs around 3X of the CSW v2.5 in US, EU and AU  the right price for Japan should be 64,900 x 3 = 194,700  around 200,000 jp Yen or 1,780.00 US$

     
  • edited July 2018
    I heard the livestream while driving so I’m not sure of some detail things. It would be great if sim Racing girl could post on YouTube video a high resolution, more focused showcase. Show me the key and how it works, the kill switch and how it mounts on my rig. Is this switch wired in or remote? Is there a brick? Show better view of mounting points, QR, menu operation. Other DD wheels us pc software to tune ffb, will these just use the tuning menu?
  • I don't see any details on what the resolution of the encoder is?
  • I’m in, preordered the DD2. I don’t have the time to mess with auctions. The DD2 might be overkill, but I figure I’ll have it turned down so low it will last forever!
  • wireless data and power, Integrated design . amazing work fanatec  :)>-
  • hi Thomas last auction Australia and Japan were excluded from bidding are we to expect the same again for the dd1?i really hope not .would like to see some equality and fairness this time please.thank you
  • I don't see any details on what the resolution of the encoder is?
    thomas said they ain't saying
  • Good news!

    I just worry one thing that everything inside of body

    I'm using CSL WB with F1 rim and I always feel the fan after few laps,it makes me afraid pre-order now

    hope can get some info about it





  • So, more waiting....end of the year (at the earliest). No info about new Podium wheels (except the F1) or other peripherals...
    Going to to switch to the OSW path I'm afraid... (though I like the plug &play idea of the Podium series).
    May I ask why you think that OSW will serve you better?
    Sure you can.
    It's not that I am convinced OSW will serve me better, in fact - as I wrote - I believe the plug and play of the Podium series would be more than welcome to me.
    But I am waiting for the Podium series to replace my V2 since the first rumours began.
    I even returned a fresh acquired OSW set for that reason.
    Then the DD base was announced for september (or the fourth quarter) 2017. 
    Then it got delayed again (I understand there were some issues, I get that).
    Then the big moment: a countdown teaser for July 13th...
    I was really hoping the new bases would be available by now, but as it seems it's going to take another 6 months (at the earliest) for the first ones to be shipped.
    Maybe I'm too old, maybe I ran out of patience too early, whatever. But I'm not going to wait another half year. And I can add, that atm 6 friends of mine share the same thoughts.

    Coming back to the core of your question: I have no means of knowing if the Podium series are going to be on par with the actual OSW systems that have proven themselves over the years. Maybe they are, maybe they will be better, maybe they will be not so good, future will tell.

    Anyway speaking as someone who loves his Fanatec gear, I wish you luck with this new product, really hope it's going to succeed.
    Not going to do what one of your employees suggested: buy a V2.5 in the meantime and then sell it when the Podium arrives (this because I fear for a (whole) while that my V2 is going to die on me and I don't want to be stuck with no base).
    So now I will have my two CSW wheels rebuild to fit OSW and hope the best...

    I understand your position Willy, I sold of my V2.5 wheel base, my V1 wheel base and two of my wheels in preparation for a 7/13 release date only to realize, as we got closer to the date and no info released, that 7/13 was not the date this would go on sale. It was very disappointing listening to the news today realizing I would have another 6 months to wait. 

    You make a great set of products Fanatec, I am sticking with you for now, but with every new release you keep shooting yourselves in the foot. Being the best on the market has little weight if your not available when needed.
  • edited July 2018
    I understand your position Willy, I sold of my V2.5 wheel base, my V1 wheel base and two of my wheels in preparation for a 7/13 release date only to realize, as we got closer to the date and no info released, that 7/13 was not the date this would go on sale. It was very disappointing listening to the news today realizing I would have another 6 months to wait. 

    You make a great set of products Fanatec, I am sticking with you for now, but with every new release you keep shooting yourselves in the foot. Being the best on the market has little weight if your not available when needed.
    What if I told you it is you that is shooting themselves in the foot? You sold your wheel base and wheels not knowing if or when the new base would be released. Buy another v2.5 and then sell it at a more appropriate time?

    Speculating about things you have no way of knowing about is not a very effective way to make decisions and nothing about that is Fanatec's fault. They have no obligation to spell out all the details of their business so you can plan ahead 6 months. What is it with the sim racing community and just constantly setting themselves up for disappointment? I truly do not get it.
  • Fanatec I would definitely recommend reposting the livestream on YouTube. The stream on Facebook was not very high resolution so wasn't really possible to see some of the details like the OLED display telemetry and things like that.
  • edited July 2018
    Hallo Thomas!

    Danke für euren Livestream und die sehnlichst erwarteten DD-Wheel Infos.

    Ich habe diesen in meinem deutschsprachigen Simracing + VR-Channel zusammengefasst und alle Infos aufbereitet.

    Vielleicht könnt ihr mit meinem deutschssprachigen Review etwas anfangen:

    Klarerweise würde mich ein Testsample eurer DD-Wheelbase brennend interessieren, um dieses mit meiner CSW V2 gegenzutesten.

    LG und thumbs up für euren DD-Wheel Einstieg,
    A.M. aka Ron.
  • Very nice job Thomas. Those graphs showed me that during development Fanatec placed a high value on fidelity like acceleration and smoothness, not just a bunch of torque. It was worth the wait. Thanks a bunch.

    Also, I understand the demand for the DD1 was so great, an auction was a solution for such a limited supply. Otherwise you would have had a thousand pre-orders you couldn't fill for like the next year.

    I really like the big FANATEC lettering on the DD1.
  • edited July 2018
    Hi Thomas, Congratulations to you and the whole team for a great product. Has your team contacted developers regarding support for DD2 on xbox one (Forza 7, F1 2018 and others titles)? Thank you for your answer. Sorry for my English :) Best Tom Majewski
  • Hi Thomas. Will the base be sent out to any reviewers before December? I would really like to se a review by simracing garage/ Barry Rowland. Second question: in the specs for the dd2 multiple sims are listed but not iracing, will it not work with iracing? Anders
  • Are there any performance graphs for DD1?
  • So is it possible to mount the Podium DD Wheel from the Bottom to my rig? Because everytime i see Videos/Pictures of it, it is mounted from the side to the Fanatec Cockpit. 
  • Thomas can you give a release date of the podium ps4 wheel?
  • edited July 2018

    So is it possible to mount the Podium DD Wheel from the Bottom to my rig? Because everytime i see Videos/Pictures of it, it is mounted from the side to the Fanatec Cockpit. 
    https://www.fanatec.com/us-en/wheel-bases/podium-wheel-base-dd2-usa.html
    --> Supports Fanatec 3-hole mounting pattern, front mounting and side mounting. Hard mounting to a cockpit is highly recommended due the high amount of torque.

    So it should be possible to mount it from the bottom.
    For some reason the mounting option is not displayed on the german page.
  • Hi Thomas, if plug CSPv2 to DD base by RJ12 , does the resolution will down to 8 bits again ? Same as previous wheelbase ?
  • Thomas just some feedback, no need to reply.

    I have saved enough to buy the DD2 now.  I am not unhappy with the V2.5, V3 and my only complaint with the McLaren is fingers tingle by the pit stop in 1 hr. races.

    I will continue to save for my next setup and am looking forward to what else the Podium Series has to offer.  Maybe a more comfortable wheel with clutch and display and a two pedal set for more comfortable placement for left foot breakers (who also have a clutch wheel).

    Without a third party review I will not commit funds.   I do have concerns for my hands.  Not everyone has the same risk reward priorities in any race, especially Sim Racing.   My nightmare scenario is having a turn one Kamakshi driving with a keyboard break my hands with a blind side crash.

    Looking forward to receiving more information about the Podium Series.

    Bill

  • edited July 2018
    Is encoder resolution still something to worry about?
  • edited July 2018


  • When will the PS4 version be available for pre-order?

    Thank you Thomas!

  • edited July 2018
    to Mr.Thomas
    Why Japan price 250000?
    please price down to 200000 Requests from Japanese

  • Hi Thomas, is the DD2 price is right in the Fanatec Japan ?  I want to make a pre-order but i think only in Japan it's overpriced, just to give an exemple the
    CSW v2.5 
    US 499.95 = 56,200 jp Yen
    EU 549.95 = 72,400 jp Yen
    AU 829.90 = 69,500 jp Yen
    JP  64,900 = 579.00 US$ 

    Podium DD2
    US 1,499.95 = 169,000 jp Yen
    EU 1,499.95 = 198,000 jp Yen
    AU 2,499.90 = 209,000 jp Yen
    JP  249,900  = 2,224.00 US$

    it costs 724.00 US$ more, i'm sorry Thomas but, if the Podium DD2 costs around 3X of the CSW v2.5 in US, EU and AU  the right price for Japan should be 64,900 x 3 = 194,700  around 200,000 jp Yen or 1,780.00 US$

     
    True , other regions of DD2 price are 3 times of CSW , why japan region more than that? 195,000 yen is reasonable
  • Is encoder resolution still something to worry about?
    Considering the accuracy of the wheel base is purely down to the encoder resolution, I'd say yes. The fact that they're not saying makes me think it is lower than even the accuforce, and no where near the 3mil+ cpr encoders used in the latest osw builds.
  • Thomas can we get more info and specs about the DD2 wheel.... This would be very Good because there is alot of speculation talk on forums about how well your New Outrunner Motor will work for Sim Racing....more Information is the Key point Now.
  • Im completely new to Fanatec but i have been following the DD base and i want one really badly. But there are a few things concerning the auction i dont quite understand. It seems there has already been auctions for other products which i have not seen cause im new but nevertheless here are my questions. An auction (in my sense) is just for one person only, so the highest bidder gets the Object but just to bring one DD1 every week doesnt make sense to me. So basically everyone that somehow agrees to a price and doesnt change it within a minute gets the base. But there could be one guy that puts the price to 2000euro which would make the whole thing useless cause the DD2 is better and cheaper at that point, this is for me who doesnt have a lot of money a worrying factor. I want to support Fanatec but i also want to have a good price so what am i gonna do? Buy the base for 1Euro which is completely crazy or buy it for a price i dont know. Last but not least is the auction just like a preorder like the DD2 or do i get the base right after the auction.

    Many thanks for anybody that answers my questions.
  • I understand your position Willy, I sold of my V2.5 wheel base, my V1 wheel base and two of my wheels in preparation for a 7/13 release date only to realize, as we got closer to the date and no info released, that 7/13 was not the date this would go on sale. It was very disappointing listening to the news today realizing I would have another 6 months to wait. 

    You make a great set of products Fanatec, I am sticking with you for now, but with every new release you keep shooting yourselves in the foot. Being the best on the market has little weight if your not available when needed.
    What if I told you it is you that is shooting themselves in the foot? You sold your wheel base and wheels not knowing if or when the new base would be released. Buy another v2.5 and then sell it at a more appropriate time?

    Speculating about things you have no way of knowing about is not a very effective way to make decisions and nothing about that is Fanatec's fault. They have no obligation to spell out all the details of their business so you can plan ahead 6 months. What is it with the sim racing community and just constantly setting themselves up for disappointment? I truly do not get it.
    Hi Andrew, first let me say I have already purchased another wheel for use while waiting on the release of the DD2, which I have also pre-ordered. What I truly do not get is why people feel compelled to block and discredit others for voicing there opinions. Improvement only happens when concerns are made known. Yes Fanatec is their own company and yes they can do anything they want with the products and business model, but any business that doesn't want to hear the concerns of their consumers will not be in business long

    I understand your need to defend Fanatec, I do so myself when its warranted, but don't attack consumers when they are merely pointing out an area of concern they have with the company they are choosing to spend their money with. I have spent more money with Fanatec than my first car cost me because they have listened to their consumers and implemented change and ingenuity.
  • Hi Thomas

    Are you able to provide any more information as to how the auction for the DD1 will work for Australian customers. for example will they be bidding in USD/EUR excluding taxes/shipping which will then be added when succesful, or will you have a separate auction for Australian customers etc?

    Thanks in advance

    Martin


  • Will there be any other way to pre-order the PS4 version beside through the auction process???
  • Hi Thomas!
    Have you any new job for me to pay the DD1?
  • how do we pre order without paying total up front? i want to order but am not paying 6 mths infront
  • For those of us who own both PS4 and Xbox One, if you put an Xbox One universal hub on the PS4 compatible DD1, can you use It on Xbox too?
    Would like to know that too. Can one put an Elite Wheel P1 for example on the PS4 version of the DD1 and have both Xbox and PS4 compatibility then?
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