Podium peripherals UPDATE: Products are now available for pre-order

edited May 29 in Blog
I would like to give you an update about various Podium related topics:

Podium KillSwitch
This product is available from today in all territories for immediate shipment.
We are also working on a new firmware which allows to decide if you just want to turn off the force feedback or to turn off the complete unit.

Podium Mounting Brackets
This product will be available in the first half of July. We made a last minute change to make it more compatible to 80/20 cockpits and not just the RennSport Cockpit.

Podium Hub
We will show and explain this product on the 28th of may and will put it on pre-order. The exact delivery date will be announced as well but you can expect a launch in August/September.

Podium Software (Final name still pending)
The software has still some major problems and is simply not ready yet but you can expect at least a good beta version in May so you can try it out.


If you have further questions, please let me know.


UPDATE
We just put on a few more goodies online on our website. Besides the Podium hub we also have new products available.

Podium Wheel Rim R300
This is the perfect allrounder. With a diameter of 300 mm it is perfectly balanced for any GT racing series and the automotive grade leather and aluminum is on a different level.

ClubSport Button Clusters
This is a set of button units which you might know from the ClubSport Universal hub. In fact they are identical so if you have one of those you can either use them to install an additional button cluster on your ClubSport Universal Hub or to the Podium hub. With a set of Button Clusters and the Advanced Paddle Module you have a total of 10 buttons and 2 analg axis available. If you need more you can get one of the upcoming button and display modules which will fit between the wheel rim and the Podium or ClubSport hub. 

Podium and ClubSport Steering wheel R300
These are pre-configured packages for you. It is the beginning of our modular steering wheel system.

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Comments

  • edited May 9
    Good news ! I would like to know if in a near future we will have in the Podium range some replicas of IRL steering wheels ? The famous LMP1 Porsche 919H and the McLaren MCL 34 for the passionate of LMP1 and F1 will be great for me :) These 2 wheels have LCD screens, coupled with buttons of superior quality than those of current wheels, which would be in perfect harmony with the Podium name, wheels of excellence ;)
    The current F1 wheels do not stand out enough for my taste of the CSW range, APM will be compatible for the CSW, so nothing makes them "exceptional", the quality of some buttons are to be reviewed to be perfect and small ergo on F1 wheels at the top of the handles are painful for long sessions: / including with gloves, IRL steering wheels have smoother handles and I think more suitable for all types of hands.

    On Facebook there is a rumor about a QR that would make compatible steering wheels DIY or from other manufacturers, is this true or fake news ?
    And please don't call the Podium software Control Center Thank you and sorry for my English
  • Do you plan an update to the RennSport Cockpit 2 ?

    A keyboard attachment to this cockpit like other have would be very handy.
  • Podium hub... What the crocodile is that ? Any plan on producing a support to incline the DD base... I mean one dedicated to the Podium series.
  • Hi Thomas, is the yprice for the Killswitch is a late April Joke?? Sincerly yours, K. Schweitzer
  • edited May 9
    Hi Thomas, Is there any update/news about the Porsche Rim/new Buttonbox you have previewed a few months ago, or is this the Podium Hub?
    Thanks in advance :)
  • Sorry dude, the Price is a BIG F...ING JOKE !!!!

  • edited May 9
    Have to admit, the price of the kill switch is way over the top for what it is.
    I got one with my DD2, but now way is it worth that price, it feels like a cheap plastic toy in comparison to the rest of the equipment.  Just have any old switch (i.e the one on the wall socket) to turn off the power.  Will do the same job, currently.
  • Is there any point of buying the podium brackets to my rennsport v2 when I already have the original mounting plate? Dont think the upgrade are worth 250€?
  • Hi Thomas, Is there any update/news about the Porsche Rim/new Buttonbox you have previewed a few months ago, or is this the Podium Hub?
    Thanks in advance :)
    The Podium Hub is the gold coloured piece that wheels, button plates, and shifters will attach to. It was shown as part of the new Porsche wheel at the SimRacing Expo last year.

    Is there any point of buying the podium brackets to my rennsport v2 when I already have the original mounting plate? Dont think the upgrade are worth 250€?
    The side mounts are stronger than the original mounting plate and more suitable for the Podium systems. Plus, side mounting gives you better leg clearance than bottom mounting.
  • Thanks for transparency
  • edited May 9
    Would be nice to comment on the new QR. Bmw rim and xbox universal hub to be compatible with the new QR ?

  • Thank you for the answer, so there is no Podium Porsche Wheel in sight in the near future?



    Hi Thomas, Is there any update/news about the Porsche Rim/new Buttonbox you have previewed a few months ago, or is this the Podium Hub?
    Thanks in advance :)
    The Podium Hub is the gold coloured piece that wheels, button plates, and shifters will attach to. It was shown as part of the new Porsche wheel at the SimRacing Expo last year.

    Is there any point of buying the podium brackets to my rennsport v2 when I already have the original mounting plate? Dont think the upgrade are worth 250€?
    The side mounts are stronger than the original mounting plate and more suitable for the Podium systems. Plus, side mounting gives you better leg clearance than bottom mounting.

  • edited May 10
    I was planning to buy the kill switch when it finally arrived. And now it's available, but the price is insane. $149.90 in Australia (plus postage on top)!

    Yikes. That's really crazy for something that's nothing more than two simple switches, a plastic box and a $2 rj12 cable.  :-O

    There's a very similar switch available on eBay for $11.90 delivered (or about half that if you but it from an eBay seller in China).


    image

    Come on Fanatec, if you want to tempt us to buy accessories, they should be vaguely reasonable in price! 

    ------------------

    EDIT: And if you want a nice stainless steel button, you can replace the whole switch for one like this for just another $11.

    image

  • That's not really fair to them.

    They have to source those components, buy them in somewhat limited quantities. Design a unique PCB to work with their RJ12 wiring standard, design and have fabbed a custom housing due to the custom board, package them up in something better than a ziploc bag, and then have manuals and tech support for it.

    That stuff isn't free.
  • edited May 10
    That's not really fair to them.

    They have to source those components, buy them in somewhat limited quantities. Design a unique PCB to work with their RJ12 wiring standard, design and have fabbed a custom housing due to the custom board, package them up in something better than a ziploc bag, and then have manuals and tech support for it.

    That stuff isn't free.
    Don't forget overhead, liability insurance, transport, profit, reinvesting in future product and development etc.  How the hell do you guys think they pay for development of new products?  All people see is look at this a part for $11. People just don't get it, it's a little saddening.  
    If they give this stuff away for free, people would still complain.

    Sorry for the rant, I can comment it out if people feel it inappropriate... 
  • edited May 10
    Also > you need to know what the pin outs on the RJ12 are and I bet these are not commonly available.

    But yes I agree these accessory prices are insane considering it really is a necessity for safety.  It is a bit like buying a car and only having the handbrake (e-brake) fitted from the manufacture.  You are then charged extraordinary amounts to have foot brakes fitted at a later date.

    I did once run my own business so I do appreciate the overheads and liabilities that one incurs but even so, taking the Michael is never received well by the consumer. 
  • edited May 10

    That's not really fair to them.

    They have to source those components, buy them in somewhat limited quantities. Design a unique PCB to work with their RJ12 wiring standard, design and have fabbed a custom housing due to the custom board, package them up in something better than a ziploc bag, and then have manuals and tech support for it.

    That stuff isn't free.
    Sorry, but what a load of rubbish Joel. What's unfair about it?

    I'd say there's a fair chance the kill switches Fanatec are selling probably come from the very same factory in China as the eBay ones. There's probably one factory there that makes almost every type available anywhere in the world. And all Fanatec's other stuff is manufactured in China too.

    And I'll bet there's nothing particularly unique about the PCB either. In fact, it may not eve have one. It's just two switches connect to an RJ12 connector (which is common and available off the shelf at any electronic parts store) after all. In fact, if we knew which pins to connect to the wires to, it would be easy to make one yourself for about $20. (BTW, I have a background in electronics and technology, so I'm not just talking through my  :@) . This is a VERY simple device.)

    Anyway, just to be clear, I don't expect Fanatec to sell their kill switches for $12, but $150AU is just crazy talk.

    And finally, I will also point out that I'm very happy with my DD1 and Clubsport V2 wheel, but I would feel utterly exploited if I paid that much just for the kill switch.


  • edited May 10
    Hi I don't think that external kill switches will support fanatec software. My guess is there will be a separate software for the kill switch.
  • edited May 10
    Given that the wheel bases that are already shipped with the kill switch don't have separate software, I don't know why you'd think that. The code for its functioning would just be part of the standard firmware/driver package I expect.

    Anyway, I'm not promoting the idea that people try to make their own. Getting it wrong would be a good way to potentially cook the circuitry inside your nice new Podium wheel base.



  • So only Podium Hub? What about Porche rim or button plate? 
    Could we expect having them packaged or just need to order them in separate pieces. Would like to apply voucher to that order but for my understanding it can only be applied to 1 item
  • edited May 10
    edit: Since they are adding force kill for killswitch, price is very fair.
  • edited May 10
    It is certainly very expensive... if you simply wanted to completely kill power then just buy a standard kill switch and wire in the power supply plug into it so it sits between the power supply and wall socket... dont use the RJ11 plugs. 

    Simple solution for a $12 kill switch if you only want to completely cut power and not just ffb. 

    To be fair to fanatec there unit is not just a simple power cut, and being able to just turn off ffb would be better obviously if you actually want a safety 'kill switch'.

    I on the other hand would probably only ever be using it as an easy way to turn the wheel off completely when im not using it, so when my dd1 f1 wheel arrives i will most likly just be having a on/off switch mounted on my rig instead. 100Euro for that seems a little steep. would rather put cash into another wheel. 

    I honestly cant see that a safety switch is necessary to be honest... no matter what anyone says 20nm is NOT going to break your arm! lol
  • you could easily tear a thumb out of its socket.
  • edited May 10
    Yep. This is the ultimate in Fanatec extortion bs. Chinese factory switches that are exactly the same but cost a tenth of this. It's the ultimate statement that Fanatec only cares about your wallet and how much they can rip out of it.

    It's an astonishing bit of pricing madness that won't help their reputation.

    And I hate myself for buying one. They've lost perspective with this one.

    I hope somehow Fanatec gets its act together.

    That said, this obvious lunacy is probably what led to almost all of their ridiculously good products and that there's so many of them. Like, 20 wheels when any other company would have like four. 

    With this Fanatec has validated criticism of its pricing it has copped over the years, and that we used to defend. 
  • So with the Podium Hub wrapping up development soon, what's next? Pedals, I hope?
  • edited May 10
    For god's sake, I see people spending 500-800 for real race seats for a sim rig that will never leave the save haven of the inside of house, button boxes with key start ignitions and people complain about $100?  I just don't get it.  Some one already suggested, get a power strip and put that by your feet, done deal and tada cheap. 

    If I did not have the DD2 i would still buy it. For convenience and appearance.  
  • edited May 10
    Good news ! I would like to know if in a near future we will have in the Podium range some replicas of IRL steering wheels ? The famous LMP1 Porsche 919H and the McLaren MCL 34 for the passionate of LMP1 and F1 will be great for me :) These 2 wheels have LCD screens, coupled with buttons of superior quality than those of current wheels, which would be in perfect harmony with the Podium name, wheels of excellence ;)
    The current F1 wheels do not stand out enough for my taste of the CSW range, APM will be compatible for the CSW, so nothing makes them "exceptional", the quality of some buttons are to be reviewed to be perfect and small ergo on F1 wheels at the top of the handles are painful for long sessions: / including with gloves, IRL steering wheels have smoother handles and I think more suitable for all types of hands.

    On Facebook there is a rumor about a QR that would make compatible steering wheels DIY or from other manufacturers, is this true or fake news ?
    And please don't call the Podium software Control Center Thank you and sorry for my English
    OH YEAH BOY. Mclaren replica is the best in my opinion looks nicer than my baby ferrari or mercedes. redbull one is good too. I would also like a production car steering wheel. like a golf gti wheel or something like that when I drive road cars. So exited for podium wheels. Hope they are all replica. Exited for the podium QR too, but hope it is compatibe with xbox one hub and bmw wheel

    and yes using the Podium hub you could attach a replica ferrari wheel for example (but need a cable)

  • For god's I see people spending 500-800 for real race seats for a sim rig that will never leave the save haven of the inside of house, button boxes with key start ignitions and people complain about $100?  I just don't get it.  Some one already suggested, get a power strip and put that by your feet, done deal and tada cheap. 

    If I did not have the DD2 i would still buy it. For convenience and appearance.  
    Yep. I spend 100€ in 2 weeks for smoking, so 100€ for small gadget what probably last very long is CHEAP.
  • Wow. I was hoping the kill switch would be around 30 €. 50 € (including shipping) would have been my limit. This is crazy.
  • Idea for podium wheel production cars
  • Honeslty some of the guys that complain must be buying Fanatec's most expensive products anyway cause the second batch of the DDs is already sold out....which means that the price is right in my opinion.


  • Hi Thomas, Is there any update/news about the Porsche Rim/new Buttonbox you have previewed a few months ago, or is this the Podium Hub?
    Thanks in advance :)
    The Podium Hub is the gold coloured piece that wheels, button plates, and shifters will attach to. It was shown as part of the new Porsche wheel at the SimRacing Expo last year.

    Is there any point of buying the podium brackets to my rennsport v2 when I already have the original mounting plate? Dont think the upgrade are worth 250€?
    The side mounts are stronger than the original mounting plate and more suitable for the Podium systems. Plus, side mounting gives you better leg clearance than bottom mounting.
    Hey Dominic, Thomas

    So, for the podium hub are there any chance to allow DIY connections, I mean it would be great if fanatec release with the Podium a schematic diagram about the connector, pins and power. It will open to the podium an infinity possibilities and probably all the customers gets more options.

    L
  • edited May 10
    I guess its more about the value you get for your money, the switch is just what it is: a switch. Not realy worth 100€, its 10% of what the whole base came for. If i compare it to the Handbrake which sells for 150€ and is made out of metal and much bigger and more complex, the switch is a plasic mold. The powerbutton feels cheap and the stop-button is not much better, its not "podium grade" more like between the clubsport and csl range. Fanatec as a bigger player shoud be able to offer some better prices than a lot of its competitors. Yes i know that they dont need to do that and it seems that they dont want to do that. Since i got a DD2 its not much of a big deal for me but the powerbutton on the back would annoy me, its a desing flaw and the screen hides nice behind my sli-pro. There is room for a x.5 Version of these bases. 

     I would buy a sidemount for like ~150€, but for 250€ i stick with my diy solution which just works fine. 

     Not having the software ready to go is crazy, should be here already or you should have never told us about it and definitely never said its available by the end of april. 


     The base itself is great (nowhere near a reinvention off force feedback but great) but everything else regarding the product launch is extremely unprofessional. It a good thing for Fanatec that the competion isn't that big, might have ended bad.
  • edited May 10
    Hi Thomas, I was just wondering when you may release the alcantara steering wheels and the podium button plate? Many thanks Mike
  • edited May 11
    I hear you!

    So some (perhaps even the majoriy) expected a lower price aroud 50 for the killswitch and not 100. So we are talking about a price difference of 50 €/$

    Perhaps our pricing was wrong and I guess we will see that in our sales figures by the end of the year. But please don't think that we are making a fortune on the Podium bases. In fact the first batch of DD1  with the discount voucher of 350 was sold well below our cost price. This means we worked hard for 3 years and made no money so far.

    Any DD1 or P RW owner wo is complaining now about the high price probably paid our super low starting offers and get the big DD2 motor for free.

    The Killswitch is NOT mandatory to increase your safety. If an accident like this happens then a KS would not helped anything.

    As soon as the wheel goes wild and your hands are off you can also turn off the base with the power button. Therefore the Killswitch is more like a remote power button for your convenience.

    And the position of the power button on the backside is not intended but a safety decision as it is very risky to have the power button placed on the front of the base when a formula rim is going wild and can hit your fingers if you want to power it off.

    And yes we re still by far the cheapest DD offer on the market in this power range if you consider what a total package of a DD wheel base and 2 or 3 high-end steering wheels will cost you. Plus warranty, true wireless, worldwide support, plug&play, etc. etc.

    And finally: Here is what a (full) plastic killswitch with cable cost for OSW 
    And this product has less functionality as it cannot turn off the base.

    So if you are a DD1 owner of the first or second batch then you are extremely lucky and made a fantastic deal. Please enjoy.





  • Mike Bolt said:
    Hi Thomas, I was just wondering when you may release the alcantara steering wheels and the podium button plate? Many thanks Mike
    We will release more products on or before Simracing Expo
  • Mike Bolt said:
    Hi Thomas, I was just wondering when you may release the alcantara steering wheels and the podium button plate? Many thanks Mike
    We will release more products on or before Simracing Expo
    dear thomas
    i think we need a Key buckle or Key chain for torque key.  :P
  • edited May 11
    lol. Thomas - I’m certain the massive thick shielded cables are 90% of the cost on that simracing bay item, the kill switch is probably thrown in. Yours comes with a tiny phone cable. But your correct and open with your thoughts which is great and appreciated. I didn’t get a first batch unit with voucher as you still don’t ship to South Africa so I had to wait until I had a trip planned to the UK this year to order. I would have certainly picked up a switch at probably 50euro just for convenience but at 100 I’ll just make my own power switch on the rig. I agree that if the wheel snaps out of your hand a kill switch is hardly going to help as it’s already happened. For 95% of people it’s just an easy way to turn off your wheel when your finished. I still think the podium f1 bundle is insane value. Can’t wait for mine to arrive in June.... unfortunately it will be sat with my mother in law for about 3 months until I actually get to the UK to collect it, the wait is going to kill me!
  • Thank you for your reply Thomas, I'm so excited for new podium products being released this year by you, fanatec make some awsome gear keep up the good work everything is very much appreciated, can't wait to recieve my podium racing wheel in June
  • edited May 11
    Thanks for your post Thomas. It's worthwhile hearing your point of view, but...

    I would argue Fanatec would ultimately make a better financial return selling lots of the kill switches at $100(AU), but less overall profit selling a lot less of them at $150.

    If they were $100, I would have bought one already, but at $150, I simply just can't justify such a purchase as it's a 'luxury' I don't actually need – and as other's have already expressed, I'd be quite annoyed at myself for spending so much on something that feels so overpriced.

    Anyway, I'm loving the Podium DD1 and the Clusport Formula V2 rim, so I'm quite happy on that front.
  • Thanks Thomas for responding to kill switch prices. I will purchase one when/ IF the price gets reduced as only need it for a remote on/off switch.
    £$50 is more a sensible price imo, considering the extra postage cost.
    Why not do a poll rather than wait for end of year sales figures as am sure selling more items at a lower price would be better than selling none or not many at a higher price. Plus, IF  you do drop the price you will only infuriate existing customers that has purchased prior to reduced price.

    Trying to recoup a sales loss on the first batch of DD1s via high accessory prices don't go down well.
    Still think it should be included with the DD1 as standard personally.
  • edited May 11
    No need for another poll. If I were Thomas, I'd just review the price now because it makes better business sense to sell a lot more units at a more reasonable price. Since they've only been on sale for two or three days, anyone who has already bought one could be reimbursed for the difference. That would make them happy, make other prospective buyers happy and Fanatec would ultimately make more money in the long run.

    As I've already indicated, I'd buy one immediately if I didn't feel like I was being taken for a ride.*

    :)

    (* sim racing analogy fully intended)
  • edited May 11
    Thomas what are you talking ? Your statement is wrong.

    Watch this :

    or 

    ...with Killswitch, Wireless, Warranty and Support !

    For 99% of the Sim Racer the Power of the Simucube 2 Sport will be more then 
    enough for the Price of 959 EUR !!!

    Please stay fair and realistic !!!


  • edited May 11
    Thomas what are you talking ? Your statement is wrong.

    Watch this :

    or 

    ...with Killswitch, Wireless, Warranty and Support !

    For 99% of the Sim Racer the Power of the Simucube 2 Sport will be more then 
    enough for the Price of 959 EUR !!!

    Please stay fair and realistic !!!


    this you can see like DD2 base where you alsow gat the killswich, and by the P RW PS4 you have steringwheel for 349$/€ + Podium pedal shifter for 179$/€

    so wat you talking abaut??  

    By the way Sparco gloves for racing = 179 €, where is the walue?
  • this you can see like DD2 base where you alsow gat the killswich, and by the P RW PS4 you have steringwheel for 349$/€ + Podium pedal shifter for 179$/€

    so wat you talking abaut??  

    By the way Sparco gloves for racing = 179 €, where is the walue?
    Dude, we talk about the DD1 Wheel Base. Without Switch and Wheel, nothing else.

    After Price Drop and 99 EUR for the Switch. And we talk about Thomas statement.

    So please : Read - Think - Understand and then Write....
  • I got the DD2 , so my kill switch was part of the deal. The plastic does stand out as cheap looking compared to the rest of my setup. It would be nice if the switch box was made of material like the box that houses my hand brake, even if such a device were offered as a premium version. That said, I understand that the sort of supplier where you would source this would be set up for this construction, and greatly enjoy the convenience of incorporating the power switch in the same housing. Thanks Thomas for the voucher, the wait was tough, but in the end I’m thrilled with my DD2! I’ll be following closely to see the rim options you’ll be releasing.
  • Fanatec's wireless solution is currently the best in the world
  • edited May 11
    Thanks for your explanations Thomas. Very apreciated.

    About your mounting brackets solution, it's not valid from every cockpit and most of us need a simple solution to get some angle for the base, like we have in CSW series. Something simple and adjustable like this, would be valid for any table/cockpit:
    image
    It should be cheap and would fit on most of user's cockpits. If it’s not planned, told us to search for other thirth party options.
  • I hear you!

    So some (perhaps even the majoriy) expected a lower price aroud 50 for the killswitch and not 100. So we are talking about a price difference of 50 €/$

    Perhaps our pricing was wrong and I guess we will see that in our sales figures by the end of the year. But please don't think that we are making a fortune on the Podium bases. In fact the first batch of DD1  with the discount voucher of 350 was sold well below our cost price. This means we worked hard for 3 years and made no money so far.

    Any DD1 or P RW owner wo is complaining now about the high price probably paid our super low starting offers and get the big DD2 motor for free.

    The Killswitch is NOT mandatory to increase your safety. If an accident like this happens then a KS would not helped anything.

    As soon as the wheel goes wild and your hands are off you can also turn off the base with the power button. Therefore the Killswitch is more like a remote power button for your convenience.

    And the position of the power button on the backside is not intended but a safety decision as it is very risky to have the power button placed on the front of the base when a formula rim is going wild and can hit your fingers if you want to power it off.

    And yes we re still by far the cheapest DD offer on the market in this power range if you consider what a total package of a DD wheel base and 2 or 3 high-end steering wheels will cost you. Plus warranty, true wireless, worldwide support, plug&play, etc. etc.

    And finally: Here is what a (full) plastic killswitch with cable cost for OSW 
    And this product has less functionality as it cannot turn off the base.

    So if you are a DD1 owner of the first or second batch then you are extremely lucky and made a fantastic deal. Please enjoy.





    Hey Thomas,

    I agree I think the price is right, the few unhapy people make a lot of noice but I think most gamers understand that a good product costs money to make hence it costs money to buy.

    Anyway the real question is: Can my DD RW F1 be sent to me straight away cause I cannot wait haha!! ;)

    Let's be serious for a minute, the price is fine, but I think it would be nice to put in the box a protection for the wheel like if you buy a wheel on its own, and 3 years warranty on the wheel like on the base would have been cool too.

    Cheers and keep up the good work!
  • @Dominic Brennan 

    Can you tell me when the first batch of standalone Podium Paddle Modules will be shipped?

    Is the new July date for the second or third batch?

    Ordered mine in December and Im eager to get it :)

    Thanks!
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